The economy keeps expanding...

Originally posted by thepresident
We are now in the 30 month of continual job growth in America.
The economy added 200,000 more jobs in the latest jobs report.

www.latimes.com...



This will help Obama in re-election because it is further signifies that his policies
are geared to encourage long term growth.

edit on 6-9-2012 by thepresident because: (no reason given)

edit on 6-9-2012 by thepresident because: (no reason given)

I already saw that episode of "Sliders". That was the one after the one where Al Gore had been elected president.

"in your face America! You suck after all!"

You guys were so quick to come back and cheer on the disappointing
Numbers.

You did a great job exposing what matters to you, your country
Must fail for you to be happy.

Is your true agenda, to get all of us that disagrees with you to be "kicked" of this site? Please be honest.

Originally posted by thepresident

"in your face America! You suck after all!"

You guys were so quick to come back and cheer on the disappointing
Numbers.

You did a great job exposing what matters to you, your country
Must fail for you to be happy.

reply to post by thepresident


Private sector job growth was offset by the GOP efforts to strangle the state and local public sector with shedding jobs. Pretty obvious who is trying to help us succeed and who is working relentlessly to bring us down. No amount of private sector job stimulation can overcome a sabotage of the public sector by a party that recently took firm control of the state and local levels of government. It's too bad that you can't charge an entire party for engaging in this form of treason, but hell, their leaders in the Bush/Cheney administration can't even get charged with what the rest of the human race has decided were war crimes. But that doesn't mean that we have to allow this lock-step march into oblivion to become our future. We can reject the ideology that seeks to tear our entire society apart with its effort to redefine community as socialism. Our survival as a society depends on our ability and willingness to challenge that effort.

Low information voters will make the bad choices that they make, but the rest of us have the ability to see through the corporate-bankrolled Tea Party/GOP effort to hoodwink us into destroying what has always made the USA the most powerful nation on Earth. They have no idea that they are working to divide us and leave us vulnerable to the international moneyed elite, but that doesn't mean that we have to allow them to succeed. They may be earnest and honest in their belief that they are trying to "take their country back", but it's not and never was "their country". It's our country. All of ours, and the fact that they can't understand that is proof that they honestly have no idea what their efforts will ultimately accomplish.

When you approach a drowning man who is thrashing about in the water, you ave to subdue him - by any means necessary - if you want to rescue him and keep him from drowning the both of you. We have 40% of our society thrashing about right now, and we have to do whatever it takes to subdue them and prevent them from taking us all down as they thrash and take on water. If not, then they will drown and we may very well drown with them.

No one wants to kill off the last, greatest hope for the human race, but to assume that everyone knows exactly the net impact of their fondest hopes for our nation is to be naive and dangerously ignorant of the reality of what we all face here. The moneyed Plutocracy wants to be the world's new aristocracy, and the United States of America is all that stands in their way. They've been scuttling the middle class of its wealth over the last decade, and while there's still a little wealth left for them to steal, what they really want is to begin work on the stability of its social structure so that it can't ever fight back when the really deep injuries are inflicted. After all, this is also the most powerful nation on the earth, and that needs to be dealt with.

This is a long game that's being played, and the rollout is being staged and implemented by the largest corporations in the world under the direction of these elites. Don't expect the low information Americans to ever realize this, but that doesn't change the truth of what's been ongoing for a decade now. Between the 9/11 launched multi-trillion dollar War on Terror, the elimination of Wall Street regs and the 2008 multi-trillion dollar bailout raid on the US Treasury, the effort itself became obvious and clearly defined, and now, with the whole bizarre alternate universe Tea Party/GOP with it's Ayn Rand toxic-twin presidential campaign ticket not even trying to conceal their disdain for societal cohesion, this overall effort has begun to really solidify. Still, there are millions and millions of us, and if we refuse to allow it, they can't possibly succeed.

Of course, if we get lazy or get hoodwinked, then nothing will save us. It really is up to us as a society of Americans to figure this all out accurately and to do what needs to be done. No one person - not even a president - can save us if we refuse to save ourselves.

reply to post by thepresident


No we don't want America to fail, that is why we are so critical of Obama.

Listen man I hate to burst your bubble but the only way the economy will ever recover is for the jobs created to be mid-level to high paying jobs. If you add a bunch of minimum wage jobs it will not stimulate the economy. Not really. Especially since a lot of those who have lost their jobs and their homes are skilled labor and their plight was the result of layoffs.

However, if more goods were to be manufactured and sold here that would be a boost especially with added incentive to buy American made.

When it comes to Obama I sadly cannot vote for him for the following reasons:

1. His piss poor handling of the BP crisis (the first day of which he worked on his golf game instead of getting on the ball with the oil spill)

2. His stimulus packages which were a huge disaster and did not help the economy. Most of the money ended up in the hands of foreign banks which would not be recycled within our economy here at home. This is also one of the primary reasons for #3

3. The increase of the national debt while he was in office which incidentally is now over 16 trillion dollars despite Obama's "Promise" to cut the deficit in half. Instead his contribution has been far more than every other president in American history combined (I think the National debt was only 8 trillion during the bush administration which is still a ton but it doubled since Obama took office.). If that isn't piss poor money management I don't know what is.

4. His blatant coverup of the Osama Bin Laden killing. This one you will probably laugh and call us crazy conspiracy theorists but, they never showed his body and then "Dumped him at Sea".. It basically became "We killed him, take our word for it"

5. He completely lacks the ability to Unify congress under any flag let alone the stars and stripes which shows his defunct as a leader. I know what I'm saying here isn't easy to do but it is not impossible.. Many presidents before him were able to accomplish temporary unification for certain issues.

6. Going back to #2 for a second.. His stimulus packages although furthering the Agenda of increasing the powers of big government has fallen short with the American people, for good reason. He gave the money to the super rich fortune 500 corporations that should have honestly been allowed to fail. What did they do with the money? They gave themselves bonuses for a job well done (yeah right) and became richer all while the average joe starves..

Had he given those packages to the American people it would have been roughly $10,000.00 for every man, woman and child which would have been spent promptly (I guarantee it) and would have actually stimulated the economy as it would have given consumers more spending potential not to mention 300,000,000 possible down payments or avoided foreclosures.

I could go on but I think you get it.

reply to post by NorEaster




I think they can succeed, I think Elvis has left the building...

Social cohesion has been murdered on the most basic level and critical thinking has been
replaced with clinical like conditioning. The narrative, has even surpassed the ideological
land marks and tenets or love for country, hard work and all the low information high points.

When presented with information that represents (more so with the previous DATA estimation)

1. MORE people are working! The response is BOO!

2. LESS people on welfare! The response is BOO!

3. The private sector is growing! The response is BOO!

All three things are paraded as, good, strong, "conservative" outcomes!

Yet these outcomes conflict with the narrative and we see the reaction by the
very people who claim to embrace these kinds of things.If you look at the responses,
85-90% of members attempted to bash, debase or disqualify the positive information
because it threatens the narrative, the construct itself. Have people been conditioned to
desire, anticipate and cheer on anything that contributes to the narrative they have
ownership in? It is human nature, but the twist on this is bizarre, this dystopic
vision is the actual goal of their leaders. The followers, have already bought into the
vision and they have preemptively become masterful at defending it.Turning America into
a service sector society is the exact goal of top down, corporatist oligarchs. In fact the
ailing economy was a direct result of what the previous leaders sought out. The "job
creators" won, they were flooded with capital/reward, all rules were suspended and then...

NOTHING.

No trickle down, no job creation...

The low information voter is still angry at the results of the vision they achieved.

Failure by design is the new normal, by creating failure, you can justify culling
education, social services and just about anything deemed as evil by the low information
voting base. Take note that creating failure is the best way to promote an "anti government"
rally which is a bonus. They can occupy the government, create the failures of government
and turn around and use that as a thing campaign against.

reply to post by thepresident


Perhaps people don't want to work at McDonalds instead of acquiring a higher paying skilled labor job.

Of course if creating minimum wage jobs is your idea of "Job Creation" I think you need to step back and check yourself.

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by acparker7
reply to post by thepresident

 

Well let's not go crazy with these numbers just yet. First of all it is an estimate and by no means fact. Second, 92% of the estimated new jobs are service jobs, which strongly suggests that these new jobs are flipping burgers which are clearly not high paying/benefit receiving jobs. Thus, the common worker's standard of living continues its inevitable decline.

Service jobs mean that people are having to "MAN" new business, they always proceed
a larger expansion of the economy.

The next jobs will be jobs to manage these people, manage the structural part of businesses,
etc.

If you were to pay attention to last nights 'acceptance speech' by Øbama ... the man used the same words he used in his 2008 speech as a candidate...

" i propose that we the target the Industrial sector to create 1 Million new jobs"

we know how that expansion went....
he Gov't redefined Industrial Work as including the act of 'building a burger' so that putting a slice of cheese on a burger is counted as a factory/industrial process & the person doing that task is considered an Engineer-of-sorts.

Just that kind of crap is why i totally disagree with the Øbama vision of a recovered America... while the term USA is is thrown away by the Øbama administration handlers because the United States is a different animal than the (Federalist) America that the Øbama progressives always focus upon~~ there is a very definite difference between USA & America, you the readers need to understand that Øbama's vision of power/recovery/etc is being directed to his seat of power as the American leader not the leader of the USA which is run by the Congress as the law-makers



One thing of note in the speech last night was the 'suggestion' that the wind-down of the Afghanistan war will lead directly into a major expansion of rebuilding the infrastructure (roads/bridges/runways/etc) Just like he promised in 2008-09...same lame promises being repeated in his 2012 nomination acceptance speech...ho-humm


....didn't the last Øbama 'stimulus' focus on the rebuilding of the infrastructure...and specifically the 'shovel ready projects' to get America to work...
notice that the shovel-ready-projects did not help the USA unemployed
but helped the big businesses to the tune of $800Billion and of course himself...this is a clue as to what he means about helping America...instead of the USA working population


smell the coffee yet ?
perhaps when the schools start teaching ShariaLaws we wll wake up

No offense to the OP nor anyone here trying to educate the un-educatable:

Cant believe people are still responding in this thread. The premise of the thread is like something out of the twilight zone. The nonsensical nature of the initial post, is only eclipsed by the lunacy of the responses to reason, and rebuttal by the OP. There has to be some Obama supporters out there who can jump in and try to help out the OP! Bring some facts to the table to help this fella out, he is dying here! Where is the love??!! This entire thread is giving me a headache!

Its saving grace may be that people on the fence on these issues and still open to reason will see it for what it is

reply to post by St Udio


Udio, Udio, Udio, is elections days ahead, propaganda is such a powerful tool when it targets the weak minds, but you know the real deal, is nothing but crap to derange the real expansion in the economy, Debt and more debt in the nations deficit

Job growth paid for with making monumental debt does not equal economic growth.