Originally posted by syrinx high priest
Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
I wrote a very thorough thread with TONS of research and well cited sources and scientific journals on this subject...
You can see it in my signature. Man-made global warming has been well demonstrated as false.
The Vostok cores have raw data that you can see for yourself which shows that temperatures increase BEFORE Co2 rises. The Vostok cores go back 400,000
years, long before man, and show temperature increases lead to and PRECEED Co2 increases.
The medieval warming period also demonstrates this phenomenon before industrialized man existed.
This is why the media has been quiet is because REAL scientists did their jobs.
real scientists understand CO2 is only part of how humans contrubute to AGW. it's impossible to say how much human activity is contributing
do you think human activity is helping or has literally no effect ?
lemme get some popcorn first
Well, read my thread.
According to the laws of physics, Co2 does not have the capacity to retain heat, and actually has a cooling effect, and this has been demonstrated
many times over by several very well known and accredited scientists and laboratories. Not only that, but the amount of Co2 that makes up our
atmosphere is far too little to ever physically contribute to a temperature increase, which again, by very strict measurements, has been demonstrated.
Methane, which is found in higher concentrations does, but I don't hear skeptics telling everyone not to fart.
Now... I AM NOT SAYING THAT HUMAN POLLUTION IS OK!!!
Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying...
Deforestation is a bigger contributor to global warming, and the emission of fossil fuels makes our air dirtier and worse for humans, plants and
animals alike. Oil spills, landfills, natural gas emissions (methane), and many other things contribute to destroying our only planet, and I am
completely opposed to all of those things and to finding solutions to those problems. But in the face of hard scientific studies, that are repeatable
by most scientists, Co2 is not the culprit.
The sun's wobble, the tilt of the Earth, the proximity of the Earth to the Sun, the rising and falling of the solar system above and below the
galactic plane, hell, even black top surfaces, have more of an effect on our climate than global warming folks want you to believe. Look at who the
biggest advocates are for man-made global warming? Corporations and governments... so that they have a reason to tax you, because they are running out
of room and reasons to do it using their existing excuses.
I'm all for keeping our planet clean. I'm also all for the scientific method.
The bottom line is that while Co2 emissions aren't a "good" thing, they don't cause an entire planet to warm. There are too many other variables
that go into it. If they can't get a weather forecast for your town right most of the time, which uses a much smaller set of variables, do we really
believe that they have it "nailed" for global warming predictions?
I recommend anyone here read the book "Slaying the Sky Dragon" or THIS
paper that fully explains the above
mentioned by a very reputable scientist. His credentials can be found HERE
. It says:
the total emissivity of carbon dioxide is inversely proportional to its effective pressure and, consequently, to its density in the atmosphere.
The same effect has been verified on the tables of total emissivity of carbon dioxide obtained by Hottel, Leckner and other contemporary scientists
(1)(2)(3)(4). This fact confirms that carbon dioxide operates as a coolant of the atmosphere and the surface,
not as a warmer of the mentioned systems.
Carbon dioxide emitted by human activity cannot be the cause of climate change as it is incapable physically of causing a significant anomaly of the
atmospheric temperature. Any assertion—involving the physics of radiative heat transfer—that carbon dioxide is a causative agent of climate
change, is a deliberate pseudoscientific misrepresentation.
According to the IPCC themselves (Source: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis, (Cambridge, UK
Cambridge University Press, 2001), Figure 3.1, p. 188.)
Carbon Dioxide Source: Annual Million Metric Tons / % of Total
- Natural: 770,000 / 97.1%
- Human Made: 23,100 / 2.9%
- Total: 793,100 / 100%
- Absorption: 781,400 / 98.5%
I have exhaustively studied this and reached out to many well-respected scientists in the field, and there is no doubt in my mind that it's rock
solid - Co2 released by man does not cause the Earth to get any warmer.
BUT... there are other things that do. So can we move on now?? There are other battles in the war to be fought...