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FOX News and Others Take Ryan to the Woodshed for "Blatant Lies." ...Seriously, FOX News.

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posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 08:51 PM
reply to post by buddhasystem

True, America makes strange bedfellows and it always bites us in the ass. That goes back to Iran in 1953, the grandest f up of all American covert f ups in terms of its effect today. When our young CIA overthrew Iran's first democratically-elected president because he threatened to nationalize the oil business (the west was raping Iran of its most precious resource). That guy we overthrew was a world-respected academic. He was secular. He was democratically-focused. We installed a dead monarchy, which then created the SAVAK, a dreaded secret police that killed thousands. The people were left no recourse but to turn to the mosques, where the fear and hatred of the Shah and understandable resentment of America boiled and fermented for a generation until the overthrow by the Iranian people in 1979.

Remember, in 1953 there were NO radical Islamic states. Beirut was the Paris of the Middle East. Kabul was a thriving merchant hub. Bagdhad was a jewel in the desert.

In other words, the U.S. gave birth radical Islam because of the domino effect of that 1953 overthrow, or more accurately, we were the sperm. We own it and we own its spread from there as a result. And look at the world today.

The American government is stupidly short-sighted, never giving thought to long term unexpected effects. And worse, the American electorate is the most clueless of all western nations, with the worst historical literacy (as in "understands history" not the ability to read) of any advanced nation. Because of this ignorance, all we do is cheer when idiots like Romney bang the war drums.
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 08:12 AM
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:48 PM

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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 03:10 PM

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Also, both AC/DC and Led Zeppelin is a pretty dated material. How is Ryan supposed to be a new fresh face?

He has been in Washington for over 20 years. There is nothing fresh and new about him. The Republicans are just trying to pretend again they are all brand shiny new. No more Bush, all NEW TEA party!

posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Ben81

that the american government has been compromised for a long time
it all started after JFK tried to expose the secret societies
1 yrs later he was assasinated

Doesn't it bother you even a little no one ever finished that speech? Nobody in Congress vowing to find out just exactly what Pres,Kennedy was speaking of? Republican or democrat, ........ But ask Congress if a baseball player did steroids they can tell you all about it. Sure wish Congress would investigate stuff like that instead.

posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 09:15 PM
GOP lies - toons!

posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 09:14 AM

Originally posted by sputniksteve
Not that I care about Fox or Ryan 1 single ounce, but you guys seem to be blowing this way out of porportion. You make it sound like he lied about killing hookers and selling blow by the kilo or something. These are no different really then the lies that all the other politicians tell on the campaign trail.

Regardless what side you are on, political hit pieces shouldn't give you a hard on. Take a break and realize none of this is important in the long run. It is not an us vs. them scenario, they are not your enemies.

MSM doing their job every guys letting them do it. You are good consumers.

It's called - desperation -.

It's over.

The truth detector rarely went off over at the DNC Convention.

Playing the Sandra Fluke victim card also backfired.

All of this noise was completely drowned out by the devastating job report.

368,000 people dropped out of the workforce in August.

Clearly, Obama's economic policies have failed.

Fox News is blowing away MSNBC and CNN in the ratings. The American people

want the truth. Paul Ryan isn't lying and everyone on this thread knows it.

Paul Ryan makes too much sense.

The Simpson/ Bowles Deficit Commision came up with some great ideas to get rid of

the $$$ trillion deficits. Obama ignored them all because Simpson / Bowles didn't give

Obama what he covets. --- Value Added Tax ---

Smearing Paul Ryan with this thread is an act of desperation.

The democrats in congress know the truth. Paul Ryan is a brilliant politician who knows

his numbers. Just listen to Democrat Erskin Bowles in his own words.

Stop drinking the Anti Paul Ryan Cool-Aid. You all look very foolish.

I am here to help you seek the truth.

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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 09:43 AM
Credit where credit due....good on fox.

If true and honest then
They are on the right track....I hope they are not up to something.

Romney and Ryan are scum.
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posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 01:54 AM

Originally posted by beanandginger
Who will you blame then?

Hillary Clinton?... You made a mistake and you are about to make another. Hillary Clinton would follow in the footsteps of Obama, and might even do worse, and Romney is as bad of a choice for true Republicans.

Hillary Clinton made a statement three years ago implying that "Human rights" are only secondary to the made up economic crisis, and other crisis.

Hillary Clinton: Chinese human rights secondary to economic survival
Hillary Clinton has told China that the US considers human rights concerns secondary to economic survival.
Mrs Clinton landed in Beijing from South Korea, where she lashed out at the North Korean "tyranny" of its leader Kim Jong-il.

But in contrast she offered a conciliatory hand of friendship to Mr Kim's ally China, contradicting hostile policies both she and President Barack Obama promised during their presidential campaigns last year.

She said she would continue to press China on issues such as human rights and Tibet, but added: "Our pressing on those issues can't interfere on the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crisis."

It has been proven by many of us that the topic of "global climate change/global warming", alongside the economic crisis, and "security crisis" are being used by the elites to usher a One World socialist.Fascist Government, and Hillary Clinton, alongside her husband, Obama and others want this to happen as well.

The following comes from a UN (as in United Nations) paper describing what the elites have planned for all of us, and as i said, Hillary Clinton, alongside her husband, Obama, and other "progressives/leftists" are working for this same goal to be implemented.

The governments of Europe, the United States, and Japan are unlikely to negotiate a social-democratic pattern of globalization – unless their hands are forced by a popular movement or a catastrophe, such as another Great Depression or ecological disaster

These governments would not accept a "social-democratic pattern of globalization" unless their hands are FORCED by a popular movement (Occupy and Anthropogenic Global Warming movements), another Great Depression (the current GLOBAL economic crisis), or an ecological disaster (Global Warming been blamed on humans)

Democratising Global Governance:

The Challenges of the World Social Forum


Francesca Beausang


This paper sums up the debate that took place during the two round tables organized by UNESCO within the first World Social Forum in Porto Alegre (25/30 January 2001). It starts with a discussion of national processes, by examining democracy and then governance at the national level. It first states a case for a "joint" governance based on a combination of stakeholder theory, which is derived from corporate governance, and of UNESCO's priorities in the field of governance. As an example, the paper investigates how governance can deviate from democracy in the East Asian model. Subsequently, the global dimension of the debate on democracy and governance is examined, first by identification of the characteristics and agents of democracy in the global setting, and then by allusion to the difficulties of transposing governance to the global level.

The above paper is from 1991 from the UN (UNESCO is a branch of the UN in case you didn't know). It, and the meetings these globalists have been having call for a GLOBAL SOCIALIST/FASCIST GOVERNMENT derived from CORPORATE GOVERNANCE...

This goal of theirs is about implementing a "global fascist/socialist dictatorship".

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