How many times does Neil Armstrong lie to us in this 1970 BBC interview.

reply to post by DJW001


Jesus, watch the video and explain why the terrains are the same when they are meant to be in different locations.

It's only like 12 mins long.... Or do you want me to point out the exact second it crops up....?

Hahaha you got a star for asking me a question? Now I know why you spend so much time on the moon hoax threads...your a star whore....very very sad indeed....

reply to post by thesneakiod

Jesus, watch the video and explain why the terrains are the same when they are meant to be in different locations.

It's only like 12 mins long.... Or do you want me to point out the exact second it crops up....?

That would spare me twelve wasted minutes, so, please, yes.

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A most excellent post!

Good job.

reply to post by DJW001


Wow you cant take twelve minutes out to watch it? In that case, that only means that you haven't took the time out to look/read/watch other Apollo hoax claims. So basically your opinion is mute.

reply to post by thesneakiod

Wow you cant take twelve minutes out to watch it? In that case, that only means that you haven't took the time out to look/read/watch other Apollo hoax claims. So basically your opinion is mute.

Really? How do you explain this?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Trust me, I know all the hoax claims. It is up to you to present a specific one, which you refuse to do.

Click here for more information.

reply to post by thesneakiod

You being an ass on purpose? There is two or three points in the 12 min video that you refuse to watch. You then give me link to a 200 odd page thread that you want me to trawl through? Stop being a lazy hypocrite.

It is a 600+ page thread. You accused me of not knowing anything about hoax claims. I have just provided you with proof that I have literally seen them all. All you have to do is post one single, specific claim. I am not the one being unreasonable here.

reply to post by DJW001


You're being totally unreasonable, all I'm asking you to do is simpy watch a short video that suggests dodgy goings on....yet you continuously keep up with this obtuse attitude, which just makes you look like someone who you can't have a normal debate with, trolling in other words. Which since you've been here a while I don't think you are one. Even though you called me one before

Anyway, the first view of the terrain in question is at 1:42, the next time you see it (supposedly in a different place) is at 4:20. Would you personally like me to come round to yours and click the link for you??

Originally posted by thesneakiod
reply to post by DJW001

 

You're being totally unreasonable, all I'm asking you to do is simpy watch a short video that suggests dodgy goings on....yet you continuously keep up with this obtuse attitude, which just makes you look like someone who you can't have a normal debate with, trolling in other words. Which since you've been here a while I don't think you are one. Even though you called me one before

Anyway, the first view of the terrain in question is at 1:42, the next time you see it (supposedly in a different place) is at 4:20. Would you personally like me to come round to yours and click the link for you??

It has been shown in the past that the segment you're referring to is a deliberate deception by J Collier. The moon rover is not on the top of the hill at 1:42. The astronauts are being filmed by the camera on the rover, so how could it be at the top of the hill? What you see, and what the commentator is referring to, in fact lying about, is a piece of equipment that the astronauts are carrying with them, not the rover. The footage has been edited(wow big conspiracy), so we see the astronauts on the hill, then we see other footage of them elsewhere, then back to the hill again. It is you who's been duped here.

My question to you is this: would you consider the idea that people like Collier would try to deceive you? And if you are open to that possibility, why would they be? Has it ever crossed your mind that deception is being practiced by the fake landing theorists? Do you think they(FLTs) are all somehow completely honest people? You'd be a fool if you thought that.

reply to post by seabhac-rua


But the voice over on the original tape clearly says different. The astronaut was being filmed by the other one, as implied by the VO.

The next day the VO says they are at a different location, when they are obviously in the same place.

So your saying the original editing and the VO is wrong?

Remember, he is only giving his opinion over the original tape that NASA released.

Originally posted by thesneakiod
Remember, he is only giving his opinion over the original tape that NASA released.

You seem awfully confident. What has given you this confidence?

Believe me when I say that these claims come up regularly so requesting the exact claim be posted explicitly is not that ridiculous.

reply to post by exponent



Minutes go by and he doesn't speak and just lets the footage roll, so why didn't he edited that then? He doesn't because he's watching the whole of it?

Do you have the original footage? That shows all of that mission? If so, it can easily be checked then....

Originally posted by thesneakiod
reply to post by seabhac-rua

 

But the voice over on the original tape clearly says different. The astronaut was being filmed by the other one, as implied by the VO.

The next day the VO says they are at a different location, when they are obviously in the same place.

So your saying the original editing and the VO is wrong?

Remember, he is only giving his opinion over the original tape that NASA released.

The voice over can say what he likes for all I care.

Here's the facts: both the astronauts were filmed from the camera on the rover, what we see at 1:42 is one of the astronauts on the hill and beside him is a piece of equipment, which Collier says is the rover, at 4:20 we see them both on the hill together, one of them is carrying the supposed 'rover'.

Either way Collier or whoever is making the claim of fakery is lying, and you haven't answered my question?

reply to post by seabhac-rua


Sorry, what was your question?

Do you have the footage of it though? Meaning from when there was one astronaut on his own, the the other one comes along with the equipment? I'm assuming here that it must be all the same footage? That the editing is wrong?

The only thing I can think of if it's a lie/faked it must be so that Niel & other astronauts where in an illusion that they where doing the real thing.
I do believe his words, but still.. sure it could be only in his mind that he really landed on the moon..

But yea, would be hard to fake.. if they did fake it; it's almost as great as landing on the moon itself basicly.

Originally posted by seabhac-rua

Originally posted by thesneakiod
reply to post by DJW001[/

My question to you is this: would you consider the idea that people like Collier would try to deceive you? And if you are open to that possibility, why would they be? Has it ever crossed your mind that deception is being practiced by the fake landing theorists? Do you think they(FLTs) are all somehow completely honest people? You'd be a fool if you thought that.

edit on 2-9-2012 by seabhac-rua because: (no reason given)

Do I consider collier would try to deceive me? If He had something to gain from people seeing his videos on YouTube years after his death...then maybe so.

Why? I haven't a clue, financial gain, maybe malicious intentions, maybe try to cover something else up, who knows.

One thing though, you don't think your question is one way do you?