How many times does Neil Armstrong lie to us in this 1970 BBC interview.

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BTW - It would be good for you to maintain a cool head and proceed with simple logic rather than to respond emotionally. This is what the "other side" does. Such responses prove your true allegiance - right? Name calling contributes not too much to the development of ideas. So - now let's repeat for the sake of clarity and further elucidation. "STOP making stuff up in order to refute a legitimate post............this is what the "other side" does. Do you work for the other side?"

You still haven't explained why this alleged crop line does not continue up the face of the LM. Also, please explain what you mean by "the other side." What sides are there and which are you on?

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I have just shown you that the line in question is not straight yet you still maintain that it is.

Are you blind? You seem to be a shining example of a true 'hoax believer', a person who when confronted with solid evidence simply ignores it.




I'll say it again: The photo is not a composite, the line in question is a fold or seam in the foil along a corner of the descent stage of the Lunar Module.



In fact one can clearly see in this picture what appears to be a seam over the corner.

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REPEAT - To claim that the division that is quite evident in this image is due to 'wrinkled' metal, and not the result of photo tampering is well beyond the bounds of logical reasoning.

reply to post by de_Genova

REPEAT - To claim that the division that is quite evident in this image is due to 'wrinkled' metal, and not the result of photo tampering is well beyond the bounds of logical reasoning.

REPEAT- Why doesn't the alleged crop mark continue up the face of the LM?

Originally posted by de_Genova
reply to post by seabhac-rua

 

REPEAT - To claim that the division that is quite evident in this image is due to 'wrinkled' metal, and not the result of photo tampering is well beyond the bounds of logical reasoning.

Keep repeating kiddo



You are ignoring my posts

Another picture in high res glory. Aldrin exiting the hatch of the Lunar Module.

You can see the line - seam - fold in the foil quite clearly here, again demonstrating that the crux of hoaxer claims are based upon the misinterpretation of low resolution images, very scientific guys Way to go for defending the indefensible... 'chronic' is right Genova.

There's that darn red-line again that is clearly indicative of photo fraud on the part of NASA photo-shop lab grunts. Wouldn't it be nice if the "thread-Jackers" and nay-sayers here could make it go away?

To further demonstrate that we are looking at a fold or seam in the LM's foil I have circled an area visible in both pictures.

This shows conclusively that we are looking at actual objects in the pictures and not composites.

Picture 1


Picture 2


Comparing the pictures we can see that Armstrong obviously moved to his right when taking these photos in sequence. As he moved so the reflections on the surface of the foil changed slightly, and if you compare the circled areas in both photos you can confirm this fact.

Originally posted by de_Genova
There's that darn red-line again that is clearly indicative of photo fraud on the part of NASA photo-shop lab grunts. Wouldn't it be nice if the "thread-Jackers" and nay-sayers here could make it go away?

edit on 9-9-2012 by de_Genova because: text

You are really intent upon ignoring my posts, I have shown multiple times that the line is not a straight one. When you compare two photos taken from different positions you can see the slight change in the reflective surface of the foil. You are either blind or a fool.

You've lost this debate. But I'm sure you'll continue on your little path of denial.

BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD

Its good to know there are others out there asking the same sorts of questions regarding the veracity of NASA generally and of Neil Armstrong in particular. Found this little article regarding this thread HERE and found it to be rather interesting with respect to the many unanswered questions put to us by the infamous meanderings of Neil Armstrong.

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BACK TO THE PICTURES YOU ARE IGNORING

Have a look at these and tell me you still think they are all composites:

Note the reflections on the surface of the foil. I have highlighted areas on both sides of the seam.



Note how as Armstrong moved the reflections change, on both sides of the seam.



Again, as he moves to his right the reflections change.




This shows that there is no manipulation of the images, we are looking at real objects.

Now be a man and admit you are wrong.

Or is going to be more of this:



?????????????????

Case closed - proven beyond any doubt that the NASA image was faked - BACK ON TOPIC NOW - the thread has been hi-jacked enough by persistent "moontards" who aren't even close with their cumbersome posts - their burdensome and complicated picture shows - sorry boys -

NO CIGAR THIS TIME

It's hilarious how well this thread demonstrated the moon hoaxer crowds. It attracts 2 types of people. The liars who make up the claims in their YT vidoes. After that the believers who dont even bother to check any facts see that and go around the web repeating the claims. When they are proven wrong they yell "NASA lies, We've proven it!" like a child with a temper tandrum and they claim victory. Never mind reality or anything like that

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Complicated for somebody as simple minded as yourself, again you are a shining example of the hoax believer, dull witted, ignorant, childish and petulant.

You sir are are unable to admit when you are wrong. You demonstrate to the rest of us exactly how the mind of a hoax believer works, and how the moon hoax myths are propagated through blind refusal to accept facts, something akin to a hardcore religious fanatic.

This thread should be binned.

Originally posted by seabhac-rua

This thread should be binned.

Now that's the only sensible utterance (from any moontards here) that I have seen to date. Looks as though the "moontard" fringers are now at their wits end and we can see that they don't suffer defeat respectfully.........

So please report this thread as a menace and a danger to NASA and their cadre of PhotoTards............Insist that it be CLOSED lest the contents contaminate the rest of the Forums here at ATS..............

Originally posted by de_Genova

Originally posted by seabhac-rua

This thread should be binned.

Now that's the only sensible utterance (from any moontards here) that I have seen to date. Looks as though the "moontard" fringers are now at their wits end and we can see that they don't suffer defeat respectfully.........

So please report this thread as a menace and a danger to NASA and their cadre of PhotoTards............Insist that it be CLOSED lest the contents contaminate the rest of the Forums here at ATS..............

Hahaha, "PhotoTards" Let me remind you that you brought the picture in question onto this thread in the first place, or have you forgotten that already. And now that it has been shown to be authentic you unleash your adolescent drivel. You're not man enough to admit when you're wrong. The real 'tard' here is you.

Originally posted by de_Genova

burdensome and complicated picture shows

Maybe the whole moon hoax debate is a bit too much for your limited intellect? If you are unable to address arguments relating to an issue you yourself brought up then why bring the issue up in the first place? You expect others to come on this thread and just nod their heads in assent, is that it?

You loose. Case closed.

Originally posted by Matt1951
The greatest argument the moon landing was faked, is no one has gone back to the moon since. Technology is vastly more advanced, and we still cannot return to the moon.
It was very surprising at the time that the Apollo program was canceled. It makes sense if it was fake. Nixon was the only US President during the supposed landings.

The moon landings were the first and only historical event in which technology actually went BACKWARD rather than forward. You see, every time a technological feat is accomplished, it gets better, faster and more efficient in the subsequent years. For example, when the Wright Brothers invented the airplane, every year after that planes got better and better. And when cell phones came into the market, they got better and better thereon.

However, after the moon landings from 1969 to 1972, it all went completely backward. We never went back again and neither did any other country. It was very strange. At least the Soviets should have followed soon after, and other nations as well. By now, there should be daily flights to the moon as well as moon bases or colonies. All this would be so if the moon landing were consistent with the rest of world history.

Originally posted by de_Genova
Case closed - proven beyond any doubt that the NASA image was faked - BACK ON TOPIC NOW - the thread has been hi-jacked enough by persistent "moontards" who aren't even close with their cumbersome posts - their burdensome and complicated picture shows - sorry boys -

NO CIGAR THIS TIME

It's been proven long ago that the images and videos were faked. Go search the archives. The evidence is overwhelming. No one is disputing it anymore except for trolls and shills. The only question now is WHY they were faked.

There is also a line between the foreground and background, suggesting a fake backdrop. There is also evidence that front screen projection was used. See this film called "Kubrick's Odyssey" for proof:

vimeo.com...

The Mythbusters were also caught in a fraud by 2 Russian scientists.

www.aulis.com...

Originally posted by 1pirate
en.wikipedia.org...
To understand why the Apollo Missions were cut short and why we have not been back, read all of this link.

Anyone can give some convenient excuses not to do something as a cover for the real reason. It's never about money. The US is never short of money when it wants to continue a war. The US does what it wants for its own reasons, not the ones it gives you.

You are operating under the mistaken fallacy that authority=truth, and forgetting that the government has lied many times in the past, yet people like you and many other Americans keep having an amnesia about that.

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It's been proven long ago that the images and videos were faked. Go search the archives.

Yes, just read this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...