In our past, we could safely have no fences and even leave our doors unlocked.

But today, can anyone lay such claims? More so after those horrific butchery of innocent lives?

Those who complain about 'big' government are the very same ones who decry such questionings of individuals. So what is the austerity driven police force to do, but to simply haul up 'suspects' and send them for evalutions the old fashion way instead of modern monitoring efforts silently over the communications line for productivity to weed out the truly 'warped of mind'?

If one had done no wrong, then just follow the un-invasive cooperations guides. It doesn't cost much, but failures to do so would cost society much more. No one is charged, only evaluted based upon their own freedom of expression which sounded in direct conflict to the well being of society to the tune of murdering them all.

There is danger in the committment to passionate causes. I had seen it myself several times, on how power corrupts and absolute corrupts absolutely. Seeming honest idealistic humans trying to create change, but over time, as change becomes difficult, their patience wears out and their mind snaps, with anger and hatred to fellow humans.

Hitler was pure evil from start. But humans such as Mao, Stalin, Brevik, Holmes, etc are examples, started out as ordinary humans seeking change, but over time, turned into humanslaying devils without a care to innocent lives.

Not many of humankind can control that love, compassion and raging desire for changes such as the great Mother Theresa, Ghandi, Suu Kyi or Nelson Mandela.

Thus, prevention is better than cure, espacially during these times, to prevent the further slaughter of innocents. If we are to be true friends, then that responsibility lays in us to calm those in the danger zones down and rationalize with them first,and only if that fail, do we seek for help. They would have done the same for us for none is perfect or sane 100% of the time when stresses of life strikes.

It is our families, relatives and friends that truly matters, not the world alone. They are our support and strength, and the very reason we wake up to face the next morning. Combined, rationally, we can change our world for the better, and help those whom have lost patience or even mind.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
Nice job telling half the story.

Yes the ot is full of GOD's vengeance but when Jesus came he changed everything and told his followers to do no harm to anyone until his return.

I only quoted the OT and explained it as to clarify the Commandment to which the dude referred was not to murder as opposed to not to kill. I never addressed the New Testament in any way.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
You are not alone in over looking that fact cause there is a whole world of ignorant so called Christians fighting wars offensively and not defending the truth.

So if non-ignorant Christians fight in a war defending the truth us "harm" then ok? I am confused. That is not the point of this thread BTW. So let's not derail further. No one is attacking Christians - least of all me. I only wanted to clarify the Commandment - not debate the wonderfulness of Jesus.

I too yearn for return of Jesus so perhaps we have more in common than you think? He did a bang up job on my lawn a few years ago - he must have gone out of business though I had to get a new guy Jose who doesn't do nearly the same caliber work. Perhaps he didn't have the same philosophy as Jesus regarding the “do no harm” thing - he weed whacked all of my wife's hostas.

From the lost book of Golf - spoken thus to the husband who had to find alternative lawn care in the time after Jesus.

Woe unto he who harms the hostas sayeth the goodwife – longing for the days of Jesus.

Find Jesus, she commanded - tho verily he tried Jesus was no longer in the white pages and the husband was sore with worry for the return of Jesus also.

He gnashed his teeth and rent his clothing in despair for Jesus was $20.00 a week cheaper than the next lowest bidder.

- So it was written of Jesus in the book of Golf.

Originally posted by Golf66

Originally posted by deadeyedick
Nice job telling half the story.

Yes the ot is full of GOD's vengeance but when Jesus came he changed everything and told his followers to do no harm to anyone until his return.

I only quoted the OT and explained it as to clarify the Commandment to which the dude referred was not to murder as opposed to not to kill. I never addressed the New Testament in any way.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
You are not alone in over looking that fact cause there is a whole world of ignorant so called Christians fighting wars offensively and not defending the truth.

So if non-ignorant Christians fight in a war defending the truth us "harm" then ok? I am confused. That is not the point of this thread BTW. So let's not derail further. No one is attacking Christians - least of all me. I only wanted to clarify the Commandment - not debate the wonderfulness of Jesus.

I too yearn for return of Jesus so perhaps we have more in common than you think? He did a bang up job on my lawn a few years ago - he must have gone out of business though I had to get a new guy Jose who doesn't do nearly the same caliber work. Perhaps he didn't have the same philosophy as Jesus regarding the “do no harm” thing - he weed whacked all of my wife's hostas.

From the lost book of Golf - spoken thus to the husband who had to find alternative lawn care in the time after Jesus.

Woe unto he who harms the hostas sayeth the goodwife – longing for the days of Jesus.

Find Jesus, she commanded - tho verily he tried Jesus was no longer in the white pages and the husband was sore with worry for the return of Jesus also.

He gnashed his teeth and rent his clothing in despair for Jesus was $20.00 a week cheaper than the next lowest bidder.

- So it was written of Jesus in the book of Golf.

What a fool...

Originally posted by TheGreatDividerWhat a fool...

Wait - are you not a fan of the book of Golf? I don't understand?

Forget it don't answer... I don't want to derail the thread further.

Just U2U if you want. Cheers.

It's way too easy for people to be taken into mental health facilities against their will...

thats pretty sad really, yet when someone should be in there they take them to jail. i blacked out on my PRESCRIPTION wellbutrin & woke up in jail not knowing how i got there & had to sit for 3 months while fighting my case

Originally posted by deadeyedick
That seems a tad bit racist.

Actually just a true story - Jesus and his crew did a bang up job on my lawn that one year. Jose and his crew did not - sorry if that offends you.

He killed my wifes hostas, do you know how many times I had to listen to the recitation of the book of Golf?

Over and over....until I could recite it verbatim as I have done for you today.

Praise Jesus! HIs company was cheaper tha the other lawn care companies and way better too...

A pox be upon the house of Jose and his murdering weed whacker bearing subordinates!

No lies in that story my good man.

well im pretty sure he would only have so many "friends" living an hour away and working in some medical field, after i got out i would go pay that very good friend a visit, bring along a nice metal baseball bat, you know, just to go play a nice round of baseball of course so i can remind my friend how much i really really like him.

Originally posted by MysticPearl
Then why wasn't Mr. Bush admitted to a psych ward for telling all us "God told me to invade Iraq"?

Seems that was a fair amount more harmful in the end than anything this guy did.

Now that's what I call a great f*cking point.

THIS IS ABSOLUTLEY DISGUSTING! take it from someone who has spent a fair bit of time in psychiatric institutions , it aint fun for anyone!

I don't know how things work in america, but in australia if someone was to contact the authorities saying with alegations like that, the officers would most likley just hang up on them....

ALSO if this were to happen in australia, it would be all over the news! their would be mass protests and possibly even deaths.

NO PART OF THE ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THIS MAN IS JUSTIFYABLE... PERIOD! if you think i'm wrong well you give it a go and see how you like it!

Love, Light and all that crap....

Ironic....
In the years after the "leper houses" were abandoned, due to the severely diminished rate of leprosy, the leper houses were converted into mental asylums. In those days, however, the asylums weren't JUST for the mentally ill. The governments also used them to detain the homeless, criminals, political opponents, and anyone they saw as a threat.
And now, our government is once again using mental asylums to detain political dissidents and "potential threats."

Perhaps it's just an homage to the good old days of the Dark Ages....