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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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Like I said in my post, if he insinuated in any way shape or form harm to the president, then the police acted legally. End of story. I don't care what he said because when your behind closed doors with a 'friend' you usually are the most comfortable and say the most honest of thing, so don't tell me he's innocent because COMMON SENSE would tell me he isn't.

Also he would be free, if seen as not being a threat after his evaluation. What you should be praising is that our government took a man in for a supposed threat and released him after evaluation that's the real story here.
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Common sense would tell you he never made any threats and was taken based on a friend who lived 100 miles away who ..



claimed that he was “worried” about him, citing his recent talk about the Bible in general, Biblical prophecy in particular, and the role of the Obama regime in the larger picture detailed by prophecy.


So, he was discussing Biblical "prophecy" on the radio and possibly with this friend of his. As a result..



The officers took Jason to the local hospital psychiatric ward for “evaluation.” For the next 18 hours, he was subjected to some of the most humiliating searches, probes, and questions by hospital personnel. Questions included those specific to his religious faith and what he thought about the government and Obama. Questions that were structured in such a manner that regardless of the answer, they would result in portraying him as a dangerous, gun-owning Christian zealot. All as a result of Jason expressing his non-violent, well reasoned, and articulate views on our show as well as his own. All ostensibly from the concern of one “friend” from another state and well over 100 miles away.


That's the story. All of this "threatening the president" stuff you're talking about never happened, so what then is the reason for all of this? You're inserting convenient assumptions to justify this incident.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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A, guys.. Window just opened. Maybe best thing to do here is call inn tips to local authorities. I uused to "know" a guy named mitt up in massachusetts.. I feel hes been off his rocker recently. Constantly changing his views and seems to be a compulsive liar now. I fear he will use his money to hurt other people. I fear for his, and those around hims safety. I do.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by packoftwenty

Originally posted by FearYourMind
Should we fear being thrown in a psychiatric hospital because of our political and/or religious beliefs? What is the line anyways? Most people know not to make threats or incite riots, but how far does our Freedom of Speech really go before you have to worry about something like this happening to you? All it takes is someone who doesn't understand your beliefs, or know you that well, telling authorities that you're crazy?


All it takes is anything that might threaten the Jews who are in control of your country. Don't tell me, 'holocaust', yadda yadda yadda. Your country is owned by Jews, and is being destroyed by Jews, and THAT is the only thing that this entire site should be about, because virtually everything that is going wrong in your country is because of them.


I am a Muslim, just a remark to show that I still have good faith in others. Ignore it if you will.
Now, change the word Jews with the word Zionist. I do not think someone with ANY type of religion can kill and steal this much and still be counted as a member of said religion other than Zionist. I like to watch some Ray Willim Johnson, talk about video games and learn the truth. Not very fond of beheading people and raping kids, no matter how much the media tells Muslims do this stuff. Again, I am pretty sure Jews do not do any of the stuff we see today.

Sorry for the small rant about such a small detail. I just hate it when good people are thought to be bad and visa versa.

Sorry for derailing the thread.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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I'm not very clear on the legality of what allegedly happened to this man. No mention of an attorney at any point in the article? That would have been my very first move. Instead he just goes along with whatever is suggested. "Officer Steve"??? Are you kidding me? That's how legitimate law enforcement executing lawful police business identifies itself? For assorted reasons, I'm not entirely convinced this happened at all.
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posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by FearYourMind
 


Like I said in my post, if he insinuated in any way shape or form harm to the president, then the police acted legally. End of story. I don't care what he said because when your behind closed doors with a 'friend' you usually are the most comfortable and say the most honest of thing, so don't tell me he's innocent because COMMON SENSE would tell me he isn't.

Also he would be free, if seen as not being a threat after his evaluation. What you should be praising is that our government took a man in for a supposed threat and released him after evaluation that's the real story here.
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Yea wow! maybe someday they can get their hands on the JFK murderers.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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The guy should have lied and told them what they wanted to hear. When you're in this situation, that's what you're supposed to do. Lie and tell them what they want to hear.

Lie and then sue that friend for slander, libel, emotional damages and report him/her for a false police report.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
Also why does a good Bible reading man need a gun for anyway? It's against his religion to kill.


First let me state I am an atheist in the strictest sense; however, I do have some education in the history of the Bible and other religions for reasons of self development and comparison.

I believe the passage to which you refer is more accurately translated from the original language as: "Thou shall not commit murder."

If you read the Old Testament at all you will see that "killing" in fact is an activity encouraged, endorsed by, aided and sometimes attributed directly to the entity Christians now refer to as simply - God.

As for the man being locked up for his religious views - I don't find that surprising at all. I despise organized religion as historically it has clearly been a tool of manipulation and compliance used by the priest class to ensure the obeisance of the lower casts.

This man's spirituality is his business; let this serve as a prime example of the advice my father gave me when young.

Three things a man talks about with others that can never come to any good. Politics, religion and how much money he makes.... In this case his statements were used against him by a "friend". With friends like that I guess he'll need very few enemies.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Just on Alex Jones... wow... : next, ATS members... please line up for shrinks (left line) and scrips (right line)... 911 truthers... a little further left... please



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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First thing that happens during a totalitarian regime is to get people to tell on each other.
Trust your government and tell on your neighbor, kids tell on your parents.
I feel safer already....



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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Another case of guilty until proven innocent..
I am starting to think some of you think the government can do no wrong.
So you are ok with being arrested before a crime is committed? Even when there is no evidence supporting your view?
Don't worry when they come for you I will be the first to post " He deserves everything coming to him, he should have never said that Obama has big ears."



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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You can baker act almost anyone (whom may need help).
They pull you in if there is evidence of someone unstable and about to cause harm to someone.
They evaluate you, then after a few days, assuming your not window licking insane or trying to off yourself right then and there, they let you go.

Its not a bad system, and there must be precidence in order for them to act (no, you can't bakeract people whom are just annoying, its a process).

Its a good rule and many lives have been saved because of the process. If there is no problem, then there is no worry..and no, being paranoid about government and some religious nutjob won't lead you to a sanitarium unless you think you are in fact the judgement of god or whatnot.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Never use the president's name followed with anything negative. Never include the president in any Biblical prophecy's. Never question 9/11, the war on terrorism, or whether or not any government official is guilty of a crime. Any violation of these rules will result in you being abducted by goons and sent to a psychiatric hospital. I think we're getting the picture here.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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You're just trying not to get picked up......good cover....
I agree with you whole heartedly....wink...wink ....nudge nudge,.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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NOW tell me > How do you know lives have been saved ?
I believe in Rights and Freedom over personnal protection any day.
I can protect those around me, it is the cowards that need the governments protection.
Just my humble opinion.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by Screwed
I for one love our Government and everyone who runs it.
I believe they know what's best for me and do not question their authority over me.


What planet did you say you were from again?




posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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First let me state I am an atheist in the strictest sense; however, I do have some education in the history of the Bible and other religions for reasons of self development and comparison. I believe the passage to which you refer is more accurately translated from the original language as: "Thou shall not commit murder." If you read the Old Testament at all you will see that "killing" in fact is an activity encouraged, endorsed by, aided and sometimes attributed directly to the entity Christians now refer to as simply - God.


Nice job telling half the story.

Yes the ot is full of GOD's vengeance but when Jesus came he changed everything and told his followers to do no harm to anyone until his return.You are not alone in over looking that fact cause there is a whole world of ignorant so called Christians fighting wars offensively and not defending the truth.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Sign of the times should start looking up...



First they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
You can baker act almost anyone (whom may need help).
They pull you in if there is evidence of someone unstable and about to cause harm to someone.
They evaluate you, then after a few days, assuming your not window licking insane or trying to off yourself right then and there, they let you go.

Its not a bad system, and there must be precidence in order for them to act (no, you can't bakeract people whom are just annoying, its a process).

Its a good rule and many lives have been saved because of the process. If there is no problem, then there is no worry..and no, being paranoid about government and some religious nutjob won't lead you to a sanitarium unless you think you are in fact the judgement of god or whatnot.


They also evaluate you for being a danger to yourself as well as others.If you find yourself being evaluated by a doctor what follows is a prescription of medication and if you willingly take the meds you will be likely be released after effect of said meds are noted.It State hospitals receive money from drug companies for studies of effects of meds on humans.It''s called clinical trials and as a ward of the state the have the power to do that and they do.

New 2012 guidelines by the apa have paved the way for a whole new crop of test subjects.



posted on Aug, 22 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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When you get thrown in the pokey for whatever, you cannot expect anyone to come to your rescue, you will be on your own. People do not want to be associated with you for fear they too will be held accountable.





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