Originally posted by DCLXVI
This is a thought experiment, that you are a theist or atheist is irrelevant.
Our premise is that God created the Universe starting with the Big Bang and then followed cosmological evolution that eventually lead to biological
evolution and to humans.
God being eternal WAS for an eternity before the creation of the Universe. This means that at the moment of Creation he had BEEN for an eternity. Why
wait an eternity? what was he doing?
I like to think he was fantasizing about the creation to come, thinking of every single detail, of the emplacement of every quark,boson,hadron to
follow the initial singularity. Building up enough power to initiate creation perhaps?
I hope i will get many reply related to the thought experiment and not so much about the premise of the experiment. If you just cannot pretend that a
God created our Universe for the sake of this thread do not bother replying.
Can't wait to read the replies.
Every time i try to imagine God before creation, this is all i see.
Time. Time is monitered by the state of the decaying of matter. Time is physical and must adhere to the physical laws of a physical universe. The
spiritual realm is not physical, therefore I make the conclusion that time does not exist in the spiritual realm. Of course as physical beings, this
makes the concept I am attempting to illustrate impossible to grasp fully but, this is God we are talking about here.
Prior to the creation of the physical realm, God first had to determine perfection in His sequence of events (plan), in that determination it was
concluded that in order to reproduce Himself (Elohim, the family of God) mankind must be made physical first (able to change over TIME) rather then
spiritual (cannot change because there is no TIME).
Because God's perfect Holy and Righteous character cannot be created by fiat and still consist of free moral agents (unique individuals rather then
pre-programmed robots), God needed to be able to create His children as physical beings in order to forge the Holy charater (God's way of thinking)
needed to safely bestow all of creation under their subjection as rulers of all life with their Father God Almighty, by the end of His perfect Plan.
This also required the pre-known need for a Passover sacrifce to cover the natural sins of being made physical (selfish) in order to forge spiritual
growth (becoming selfless). Thus the knowledge of the need for Jesus Christ pre-dates the creation of the physical realm.
God then first created the angelic host. Spirit beings of free moral agency (able to choose for themselves how to live) knowing how in time both
those who remain loyal to God (angels) and those who choose to oppose His way of life (demons) would be used in forging God's Holy and Righteous
character in physical mankind.
God allowed these beings to witness the widespread creation of the universe (called the Big Bang) and they were in awe of the power of God. Much time
passed physically after that moment and the rebellion of 1/3 of the angels (to be called demons as a result of their choice to disobey God's laws).
By the time of the rebellion Earth was beaming with animal life (dinosaur eras), but then Lucifer rebelled and lead 1/3rd of the angelic realm against
Almighty God. This was by design and was the natural course God knew would occur as a result of giving angels free moral agency, but God needed the
creation of evil to help mold and fashion mankind once created.
The battle followed and all life was wiped off of the Earth (extinction level event).
Then came the phase of God's plan which lead to the angelic rebellion in the first place... the creation of physical mankind (Adam and Eve).
Lucifer could not accept that a physical being as weak as mankind would be made physically would in time rule over all life in existance as children
of God, something He would never be able to do in all his majesty.
The first chapter of Genesis is not about the original creation of the Earth, but the re-creation of it after the extinction level event (angelic
rebellion i.e. "the Earth was made to be viod and full of choas..." Gen 1:2) so that it would be fit to sustain physical mankind for a period of
just over 7000 years.
That is my best explination of the sequence of events and why it really doesn't matter how long the period was, since the thoughts originated in the
spiritual realm where TIME does not exist.