Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to post by AthlonSavage
What parts of the New Agers beliefs do you find lacking in evidence/contradictory to existing evidence? If all you know about their beliefs is some
song from the 60s, i feel it would be wiser to start diggin into the existing material rather than so willingly show your ignorance on a site whose
motto is "deny ignorance".
There are some pretty good reasons and lots of ancient astrological evidence for their beliefs if you start digging into ancient civilizations etc, i
myself had not even heard of the song you mentioned, and i cannot find it on youtube... got any link?
Right on, NeoVain! I have yet to hear a definition of what a "New Ager" is. I hear kids and fundies throw the term around, and call it names, and
attach labels to the term, but in truth, what constitutes a true New Ager?
I went to Wiki, and here is what i found:
he New Age movement is a Western spiritual movement that developed in the second half of the 20th century. Its central precepts have been
described as "drawing on both Eastern and Western spiritual and metaphysical traditions and infusing them with influences from self-help and
motivational psychology, holistic health, parapsychology, consciousness research and quantum physics".
It aims to create "a spirituality without borders or confining dogmas" that is inclusive and pluralistic. It holds to "a holistic worldview,"
emphasising that the Mind, Body and Spirit are interrelated and that there is a form of Monism and unity throughout the universe. It attempts to
create "a worldview that includes both science and spirituality" and embraces a number of forms of mainstream science as well as other forms of
science that are considered fringe.
According to author Nevill Drury, the origins of the movement can be found in the 18th and 19th centuries, particularly through the works of the
esotericists Emanuel Swedenborg, Franz Mesmer, Helena Blavatsky and George Gurdjieff, who laid some of the basic philosophical principles that would
influence the movement. It would gain further momentum in the 1960s, taking influence from metaphysics, self-help psychology, and the various Indian
gurus who visited the West during that decade.
I was born in 1953, and grew up during that macickal time. It was exciting, and it was horrifying, it was loud stereo Rock Music and louder Muscle
Cars that shook the very ground when they rumbled.
The Beatles were some of the first to travel to the East, and what they learned there the told is in song. In those days we kids did have a vision of
a better world, it saddens me that no one has such a vision anymore. We thought the whole world could be at peace. We were fooled, the world only runs
when everyone is at war.
Report From Iron Mountain
We often wondered, what if the government staged a war, and nobody came?
I for one never even heard the term "Ascension" during the 1960s or 1970s. Not until I had established contact with a certain someone did I begin to
learn about Ascension, and what it means, and how to achieve it. I even got a short and small preview of it a few years ago sitting in my easy chair
at home. I raised up to a standing position and then sat back down, suddenly realizing that I had not taken my body with me when I rose. I then stood
again, and this time turned slightly, and caught a glimpse of my leg and arm in the chair. I sat back down, it was if some force was making this
happen. The last time i stood, I slowly turned and saw my human body sitting there, seemingly asleep, relaxed, and breathing steadily.
After pondering on this for many weeks, I came to conclude that what I experienced was what would be the first step in the Ascension Process. To just
step out of your human receptacle and move away from it, taking all life force from it and bringing it into your Spirit. The next step will be to
realize what your eyes see, and that you can, at will, go to a higher dimension of time and space.
So, am I a New Ager? Perhaps. but now you know what it feels like to be one. And I can assure the OP that my mind still works perfectly.