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Originally posted by dominicus
In the OT it is said for us humans to "be fruitful and multiply". That's the OT. The way things were before Christ arrived.
Enter Jesus. The Master Teacher, some say Savior, a blueprint on how to live life and reach an Enlightened Spiritual state. Yet he never had kids. He taught us to be in the world, but not be OF the world, meaning to live a detached life and not give in to the Joneses mental programming.
He left everything, walked and taught freely, and called on others to leave everything they were doing and all that they had, to come follow him and his teachings
So I too have found myself in a similar situation. Since my initial tastes of Enlightened states, ego deaths/purging, and coming into a wholeness, I find myself beyond any needs to create children. I have seen the urge to have a child comes from bodily signals and not necessarily the soul or heart.
A human beings need to procreate, I have experienced to be no different than that of a basic animal. Yet we are called to transcend the Adamic animilastic side of the body, since we are not the body.
I would rather take and adopt parentless kids and bring them up in a way where they too transcend the bodily urge to procreate and take on adopted kids and spread the message of halting procreation. The first few centuries after Christ, men fled into the desert to meditate and become enlightened. They left work, money, did not have kids, a wife, and worked on themselves daily towards enlightenment.
As a benefit, if anti-procreation took off, we would finally be done with this physical earth realm, the madness, the wars, the death/disease, and we return to original Soul state of being with God and not having to incarnate anymore. It would solve alot of problems eventually
More holes than a sponge this "idea"
i.) Not everyone is a Christian
ii.) Even if they were, that doesn't mean they would agree
iii.) Quite simply, if the population stopped having children then eventually there wouldn't anyone alive on the planet
Originally posted by dominicus
reply to post by Death_Kron
i.)Doesn't matter, we are all equally souls that are inhabiting a physical body, and have a mind based on the programming taught on this realm. We have all existed prior to this, and in physical death, us as souls continue to exist. Religious labels are irrelevant in this point.
ii.)Of course, however that doesn't change my first point. Irrelevant of views and labels, fundamentally we are all souls in physical bodies. If you go deep in your studies, meditations, and knowledge of self, you eventually reach a profound wisdom and understanding that in a huge sense, it could be seen as immoral to bring a child into this realm. I have met many others who have come to this understanding, not just Christians, but many random ATS members here on the boards also share this view
iii.)Exactly..... no more dealing with all this drama, no more wars, deaths, pillaging, fascism/communism, rapes/molestations, etc. We'd be done with this limited and insane realm and would be graduated from it. Coming here is like a downgrade from how it is prior to coming here
i.) You have no proof on whether "We have all existed prior to this", that is simply your opinion - NEXT
ii.) "I have met many others who have come to this understanding, not just Christians, but many random ATS members here on the boards also share this view" Many rapists have also met fellow rapists who share similar thoughts, doesn't make it right - NEXT
I'm not even sure what to make from that, you mention plenty of negatives but nothing about the positives in this world.
Biased negative religious view you have my friend