reply to post by Raist
I would have sold them the cake. Jesus never forced anyone to stop sinning;
To be fair now. You have said you don't have anything against gays, just the marriage thing. If you hold this religious belief that they are sinning
simply by being gay (or acting on their gay nature)...then I am sorry but you don't get to say you don't have anything against gays. You in fact do.
If that's your religious belief okay. You should be honest though
People get crazy and everyone feels like the victim in today's society.
The gay people are second class citizens. Until they are no longer then they are victims. It's simple really.
Political correctness has castrated the way we live
I agree in many ways it has. I am sure we could all find many ways in which it helped as well.
so many walk on eggshells afraid to say what they think.
Indeed. Or what they feel. Like "hey everyone I am gay".
If you do not agree with people you are often labeled a bigot, racist or some other over used term.
I can't really comment on this as it doesn't give a specific example. Sometimes people are called racist because they really are racist and really say
racist #. Just because that word has been thrown around unjustifiably doesn't mean racism isn't prevelant. Apply that to bigot and homosexuaity, same
Forcing the guy to make them a cake is trampling his religious rights and discriminating against him.
Honestly Law and business are out of the scope of my knowledge. You all have been making some good points. I don't fully understand them all...
concerning business law. But here is an example I am curious about in response. You mentioned the shop owner was the one being discriminated against
because his beliefs were being discriminated against.
The religious beliefs are protected. Race is protected. So imagine if in this example the shop owner had religious beliefs against dark-skinned people
and refused to make a wedding cake for a black couple. Same outrage from the customer. I guess they are both being discriminated against? Both
'protected'. His religious beliefs are being descrimanted and the couples race is being descrimanted. How would this fair in court?? Which one takes
As I have said all along I think the biggest issue is with the use of the term and nothing more
Here is my biggest issue with the term.
Heterosexual married couple kathy and Jim give birth to a girl. They name her Sarah. She goes to school, she has friends, she plays sports, she
watches movies. Her entire childhood and teen years she has heard about marriage from her family, from her friends, from school, and from the media.
She loved the Disney movies as a kid and remembers day dreaming about being Ariel getting married in the Little Mermaid. She never stopped fantasizing
about one day getting married and planning her wedding. She often talks about this with her other friends who are excited for the same.
She gets to college and she musters the courage to tell people she is gay and becomes open about it. She finds someone, falls in love, enters a long
term relationship and finally that lifelong dream of marriage is going to happen, her partner said "yes". But it's not. She is not allowed to get
married like Ariel in the Little Mermaid because she isn't marrying Prince Eric. She can't get married like many of her closest friends have. Not like
her loving parents did. Because she's gay. No says the World, but we have something else for people like you...it's basically the same
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