reply to post by Raist
Just because someone sins does not mean I have any thing against them.
A long time ago I spent years in the religion forum here. So I am familiar with this take on things.
We might have to agree to disagree here.
As I still very much see this as having something directly against gays.
Sin = bad, wrong... potentially even worthy of hellire.
To view homosexuality as sin is saying there is something wrong and bad about something intrinsic to their nature. Something beyond their control.
If you say yes they are gay but they choose to act on it. They choose to express that sin. You still have something against gays. You are saying that
if they act out what they naturally feel compelled to do they are being bad and wrong. You can change the wording around with Biblical terms but it
doesn't change this.
If the Modern Churches had a religious stance against dark skinned people, and viewed them as sinful simply for being dark-skinned, I wonder if a
religious person might say 'well I have nothing against blacks, we all sin, but they are CHOOSING to expose their skin by removing their robes'.
The issue with law is different in many places
Did you have any thoughts on the example I gave in the previous post? Concerning the hypothetical cake owner and the black couple. How do you think
that would play out in court?
I cannot say that I have met a gay victim. At least not in this area.
Can they get married there? Can they donate blood? Do people stop, stare and make disgusted faces if they see two gay men giving eachother a romantic
kiss in a restaurant?
I am willing to bet I can argue you have met gay victims where you live.
Around here (surprising to many) they are pretty accepted.
'pretty' being the operative word
As opposed to just 'accepted'. There is a diference there. I am happy to hear in your area they are more accepted
than many other places.
All those I have met were very nice down home and had a religious background. I reaaly enjoy their company and conversation.
Off topic but I'm curious what those religious gay people feel about the idea being gay in of itself is sinning. What did they say? What did they say
when you told them you believed that?
Show me one instance where Jesus said to or ever did stone or burn a person for sinning.
This I don't understand.
Jesus didn't advocate violence but the Bible does.
I assume you don't isolate the small percentage of the Bible that is the 'Jesus parts', but believe the whole Bible to be the inspired Word of God. Or
am I wrong here?
Well I hope this comes across as a simple debate. I am not trying to be confrontational and have enjoyed the discussion
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