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since you are not a gun fan of any kind, i seriously doubt you'll understand this ... however, online bulk buying is GREAT for gifting, (yes, i've given ammo as a gift), it's a customer friendly experience [how many big box stores can say that?], it's a financial savings overall and i don't have to leave my home to complete the transaction.
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Oh come on now people, as a person who is pro gun control, I can see the other sides point of view of wanting to own a gun or two. But ammunition? Seriously? How can you justify needing to buy ammunition in bulk online? Also, if the ammo is just for hunting or going to the gun range, why do you care if records are kept?
Originally posted by tovenar
And the requirement that dealers keep records of all sales; isn't that lovely?
it doesn't need to be, it's a given.
It is not in the constitution that you can buy ammo over the internet, in a supermarket, at your children's school...
actually, it does.
that does not automatically translate to anyone being able to buy these things anywhere they like without jumping through some hoops.
yes, actually it does ... when you place any restriction on the act of obtaining a weapon, you have "infringed" upon that right, period.
You have the right to own guns. That does not mean the government is obliged to make it as easy for you as possible.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
The rest? Well, the 1,000 round limit is totally absurd and so is the license to SELL ammunition. I got over 10,000 rounds of various calibers in factory produced ammunition alone as part of my late Father's estate. Under this, I couldn't sell it? Oh that's a crock. 1,000 rounds? I've literally fired more than that in just screwing around on the range for a single weapon, on a single visit. 8 hours of defensive pistol training, where most was spent talking and lecture, still expended 500 rounds for the day. The limits are being picked by people who have NO CLUE what the shooting sports are about or how real people actually pursue their sport.
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Oh come on now people, as a person who is pro gun control, I can see the other sides point of view of wanting to own a gun or two. But ammunition? Seriously? How can you justify needing to buy ammunition in bulk online? Also, if the ammo is just for hunting or going to the gun range, why do you care if records are kept?
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Oh come on now people, as a person who is pro gun control, I can see the other sides point of view of wanting to own a gun or two. But ammunition? Seriously? How can you justify needing to buy ammunition in bulk online? Also, if the ammo is just for hunting or going to the gun range, why do you care if records are kept?
Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Oh come on now people, as a person who is pro gun control, I can see the other sides point of view of wanting to own a gun or two. But ammunition? Seriously? How can you justify needing to buy ammunition in bulk online? Also, if the ammo is just for hunting or going to the gun range, why do you care if records are kept?
Originally posted by detachedindividual
Originally posted by tovenar
And the requirement that dealers keep records of all sales; isn't that lovely?
You do know that businesses are already required by law to maintain records of sales for five years? At least that's how it's done in the UK. I would assume that you have similar trade laws in the US. This is basic consumer protection. These records are kept by retailers for longer than that too.
I don't suppose you're aware that on-line retailers record your name, address, products ordered, IP address, payment method, date of order, time on site, pages visited, products viewed, regional location...
This is not new. People are trying to find any reason they can to scream about the government stealing their "rights". It is not in the constitution that you can buy ammo over the internet, in a supermarket, at your children's school...
You have the right to own weapons, but that does not automatically translate to anyone being able to buy these things anywhere they like without jumping through some hoops.
I am all for Americans owning guns (not weapons capable of murdering hundreds of people a minute, but guns intended for self defence). But I think a lot of Americans need to grow up and stop screaming about it every time the government uses some common sense.
You have the right to own guns. That does not mean the government is obliged to make it as easy for you as possible.
I would support this bill. I would also support a restriction on the types of weapons able to be bought. There is no need for an American to own a weapon capable of murdering hundreds of people in 60 seconds. No excuses for it at all.
And enough with the BS "it's so we can overthrow our government". That is an excuse that the American population have no right to use since you allowed your government to strip away your rights under the Patriot Act. You don't even protest over things and yet you claim gun ownership is about being able to fight back?
You can't fight government oppression sitting on your ass in front of the TV. American's seem to think they can as long as they have their precious guns.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
I would support this bill. I would also support a restriction on the types of weapons able to be bought. There is no need for an American to own a weapon capable of murdering hundreds of people in 60 seconds. No excuses for it at all.
Class 3 firearms include machine guns, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, suppressors, destructive devices and Any Other Weapons (AOWs).
The tax for privately manufacturing any class 3 firearms is $200. Transferring requires a $200 tax for all class 3s except AOW’s, for which the transfer tax is $5.
To legally possess a class 3 weapon you must complete a transfer of registration within the NFA registry.
There are two ways for you to legally buy a class 3 gun. The first is by transfer after approval by ATF of a registered weapon from its lawful owner residing in the same State as the transferee. The second is by obtaining prior approval from ATF to make NFA firearms.
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Originally posted by detachedindividual
You have the right to own weapons, but that does not automatically translate to anyone being able to buy these things anywhere they like without jumping through some hoops.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
You have the right to own guns. That does not mean the government is obliged to make it as easy for you as possible.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
But I think a lot of Americans need to grow up and stop screaming about it every time the government uses some common sense.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
And enough with the BS "it's so we can overthrow our government". That is an excuse that the American population have no right to use since you allowed your government to strip away your rights under the Patriot Act. You don't even protest over things and yet you claim gun ownership is about being able to fight back?