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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by Ben81
What does any of that have to do with Masonry and your mommy-issues?
Really? You are the one who believes in fairy-tale beings like the Devil and I am asleep?
Originally posted by notkmarx
so this process of evoking a "god" for the purpose of "uniting" with the "divine".
that sounds quite dangerous!
is this commonplace within the Masons?
if i've seen at least one good reason for this religion to be a secret this is certainly it.
Originally posted by Ben81
What do you gain when you become a master masson ?
discount at walmart ? and vip concert ticket ?edit on 7/30/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Ben81
What do you gain when you become a master masson ?
discount at walmart ? and vip concert ticket ?edit on 7/30/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
the ability to learn how to learn a different way.
Originally posted by Oceanborn
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by Ben81
What does any of that have to do with Masonry and your mommy-issues?
Really? You are the one who believes in fairy-tale beings like the Devil and I am asleep?
How do you know he doesn't exist? I'm not trying to start anything,i just couldn't help but ask since i've seen other freemasons here say the same thing with the same confidence.
If my post will be considered off-topic and gets deleted i'll just start a thread about it and PM you to join.
Originally posted by Ben81
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Ben81
What do you gain when you become a master masson ?
discount at walmart ? and vip concert ticket ?edit on 7/30/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
the ability to learn how to learn a different way.
Exactly .. this is in a way some secret knowledge hidden from people
the other guy above me saying they have no secrets at all is lyingedit on 7/30/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by Ben81
... No one for your sake
Then why post nonsense that to become a Mason you need to 'sell your soul to the Devil'?
Originally posted by giugliot
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by Ben81
... No one for your sake
Then why post nonsense that to become a Mason you need to 'sell your soul to the Devil'?
We must differentiate. I’m no expert on this, but from what I read, one can assume that “low level” freemasons can be ‘ordinary’ decent people, no problem. Of course also depending on the actual oaths they take. Probably no deep secrets here yet. But the higher the masonic levels, the more “real” secrecy seems to be involved, the more illuminazi-oriented it gets. Now don’t the HIGHEST masons cooperate with the Illuminazi?
So, IF one interprets a “complete” mason as a very high level mason, Beni81 might be correct stating: “to be complete part of their cult .. you need to sell your soul to the devil” (post by Ben81)
edit on 30-7-2012 by giugliot because: spelling
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Ben81
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Ben81
What do you gain when you become a master masson ?
discount at walmart ? and vip concert ticket ?edit on 7/30/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
the ability to learn how to learn a different way.
Exactly .. this is in a way some secret knowledge hidden from people
the other guy above me saying they have no secrets at all is lyingedit on 7/30/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
nope, Ksig is exactly right. There are no "secrets" . Everything we learn, you have already heard. You just haven't learned it like we did. The way we learned makes the lessons resonate at a much deeper level. The only way to learn them like that is to join and learn them from another mason. It's one of those things I cannot explain to you, you have to experience it to fully understand it. And then when you understand it, you realize that you are just starting to learn and there is a whole world of information that you want. And then your journey starts.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Ben81
no, you don't get it. what do you want to know?
ask away. any question at all.
Originally posted by Ben81
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Ben81
no, you don't get it. what do you want to know?
ask away. any question at all.
i dont think anything you say will surprise me
and i know you guys would NEVER break their oath
but feel free to speak about our third eye
whats going on in the world .. is the nwo in the making
will london be the trigger for the nwo ?
what about the aliens and the other dimensions
etc etc etc etc etc ...
My questions cant be answered by 1 guy or a secret society
its better if you find the truth by yourself .. it is more natural
since mason will never break their oath some can twist the truth to make you go far from the truth
trust no one these day especially not on the internet lol
i will trust my guts before anyone else
but i will always be open minded to anything i read or hear
edit on 7/30/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
It IS quite easy to do. Show up. Introduce yourself. Ask for a tour. Ask for a petition to join. Get to know some of the guys, and pretty soon you're on your way.
Originally posted by blackxj
A friend of mine is a Freemason. He joined not that long ago. He asked me if I wanted to join and I honeslty had no idea if I should or not either.
The thing that got me, is he made it sound like just about anyone could get in and it was very very easy to do, which seemed odd, being such a long lasting and private organization, you would think it would be tougher.
Originally posted by Ben81
i am a teacher after all .. been teaching people around me for a long time
Nope. Again, you're wrong.
Originally posted by Ben81
Yes i agree but you really need to make deep research yourself to connect all the dots
At least when you guys learn .. its a concentrated knowledge direct to the truth
no more metaphores and labyrinth of questions about afterlife and space and who we are
your teachers make you see a direct path not a zig zaging path full of holes
with exagerated fairy tales