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Top Ten Things Obama Has Not Released: (stick to your guns Romney)

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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once again you failed to read
hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com...

Not Breitbart.

Show me the list of those small donors. Does it exist?




posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Funny how not one of the points you listed is even remotely as grave as Romney not releasing his tax returns.

There's really only 2 options here:

A) Romney's a fellon by lying to the SEC.
B) Romney lied to the US people, outsourced jobs abroad, and uses tax loop holes created by the very same party he belongs to.

In short, he's a PRIME EXAMPLE of crony capitalism...even worse than Obama.

Also, Breitbart was a bit of a joke even when he was alive...funny to see how his site continues his "legacy"



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
I'd like to address #5. The amazing disappearing Khalidi tapes.

You mean the AMERICAN Rashid Khalidi? Who was born and grew up in NEW YORK CITY??
and...
Professor of Modern Arab Studies at Columbia University,[1] and director of the Middle East Institute of Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs.

And a member of the National Advisory Committee of the U.S. Interreligious Committee for Peace in the Middle East, which describes itself as "a national organization of Jews, Christians and Muslims dedicated to dialogue, education and advocacy for peace based on the deepest teachings of the three religious traditions."
en.wikipedia.org...

But he does have a funny name...lets just call him a terrorist.


Why is the Los Angeles Times sitting on a videotape of the 2003 farewell bash in Chicago


I thought you said that President Obama won't release the tape?????.....Shouldn't this go on the list of things you want the LA TIMES to release?

There is some illness in the cognnitive processes on this forum.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by anon72
 


Funny how not one of the points you listed is even remotely as grave as Romney not releasing his tax returns.

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If you have read the artcle I would argue there are two points more important than this: the attack of whistle blowers trying to expose corruption and the cover up of fast and furious. You know, where a lot of people died. Just because the OP doesn't list them, the article does, and both of those seem very serious. But I know, hes probably your guy, so no big deal right?

Oh, and on a side note, yes Romney is a scumbag.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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So, Romney's tax returns are more "grave" than full disclosure of the truth behind any and everything attached to "fast and Furious" ?

Why hasn't the IRS or the SEC investigated these alleged crimes? No evidence yet of any crime. Period. Just talking points. The IRS scrutinizes the returns of "whales" like Romney with a fine tooth comb. Still no charges filed after all these years.....



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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I thought you said that President Obama won't release the tape?????.....Shouldn't this go on the list of things you want the LA TIMES to release?

There is some illness in the congnitive processes on this forum.


Tee Hee Hee You funny. I trust that Obama and his handlers have a copy of this tape or at the very least enough influence over the LA Times for them to suppress it.

Funny how you misspelled "congnitive" in your post. Its Cognitive silly



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho


Why hasn't the IRS or the SEC investigated these alleged crimes? No evidence yet of any crime. Period. Just talking points. The IRS scrutinizes the returns of "whales" like Romney with a fine tooth comb. Still no charges filed after all these years.....


What will the tax returns show? 0....0% ...that is the tax rate Romney has been paying prior to the return he mocked up for election purposes.

He opened a Roth IRA...which has a maximum annual contribution of 5K...Tax Free.

Instead of depositing cash...he created a shell corporation, declared it's worth less than 5k...and deposited the shares of that corporation in the Roth IRA.

He then swapped/traded those shares with another shell corporation where he had parked 101 Million..that we know of.....TAX FREE MILLIONS

Then to protect against getting taxed on the back end for that IRA when he cashes out...he moved the corporation to the cayman isles.

Romney doesn't pay taxes...his tax rate before 2010??? 0%

That is why he is hiding it. The WSJ summed up the Romney tax dodging scheme here...

Romney's Unorthodox IRA
online.wsj.com...


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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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Khalidi.. Traitor??


Khalidi’s 1986 book, Under Siege: P.L.O. Decision-Making During the 1982 War, was dedicated to Yasser Arafat. Opening with a glowing tribute to anti-Israel fighters (“to those who gave their lives during the summer of 1982 … in defense of the cause of Palestine and the independence of Lebanon”), the book offered an airbrushed account of PLO-instigated violence against Israelis and Lebanese. By contrast, Syria’s brutal occupation of Lebanon elicited no criticism from the author.

In 1995 Khalidi and his wife founded the Arab American Action Network (AAAN), noted for its view that Israel’s creation in 1948 was a “catastrophe” for Arab people.



Khalidi deceptively styles himself as a “severe critic of Hamas.” But mere days after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, he rebuked the news media for what he termed their exaggerated “hysteria about suicide bombers.”

During a June 2002 speech before a conference of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, Khalidi offered a justification for the murder of armed Israelis:

“Killing civilians is a war crime. It’s a violation of international law. They are not soldiers. They’re civilians, they’re unarmed. The ones who are armed, the ones who are soldiers, the ones who are in occupation, that’s different. That’s resistance.



Khalidi is longtime a friend of Barack Obama and Michelle Obama. In the 1990s, Obama and his wife were regular dinner guests at Khalidi’s Chicago home. During the 2000 election cycle, Mr. and Mrs. Khalidi organized a fundraiser for Barack Obama’s unsuccessful congressional bid. In 2001 and again in 2002, the Woods Fund of Chicago, while Mr. Obama served on its board, made grants totaling $75,000 to Khalidi’s Arab American Action Network. In 2003 Obama would attend a farewell party in Khalidi’s honor when the latter was leaving the University of Chicago to embark on his new position at Columbia.

In a 2008 interview, Khalidi praised Obama effusively, stating that, if elected President, Obama would be more understanding of the Palestinian experience than other politicians. “He has family literally all over the world,” Khalidi noted. “I feel a kindred spirit from that.”


Glad you like him. American by birth only IMHO of course.

www.discoverthenetworks.org...

Forget that he was ever an op. for the PLO


This post has several important updates. The first brings a passage from a 1978 New York Times report from Beirut, noting that Rashid Khalidi “works for the P.L.O.” The third uncovers a passage from a 1976 Los Angeles Times report, also from Beirut, describing Khalidi as “a PLO spokesman.”

The fourth update, the most compelling, unearths a 1979 radio documentary on the PLO featuring Khalidi, in which he is repeatedly identified as an official PLO spokesperson in the Palestinian news service, Wafa. The interview with him was conducted at PLO headquarters in Beirut. The documentary may be heard in its entirety. —Martin Kramer

www.martinkramer.org...

Now I know why Obama is trying to keep all eyes off of his long term friendship with Khalidi. They have like minds!!!!

Cheers!! Look beyond Wiki if you want the truth



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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Little snippets from people defending Obama on ATS


He, just like you, is allowed to keep his private life private. . . . .


Obama doesn't have to hand over. . . .


Obama doesn't have to respond at all. . . .


Obama doesn't have to do anything further, there is no requirement of him do so, it was never a requirement. . .


Obama doesn't have to rely on. . . . . . . .


Obama doesn't have to worry about . . . . . .


Obama doesn't have to prove anything.


Obama doesn't have to explain it to people.


Obama doesn't have to ask Congress . . . . .


Anyone see a trend here?

Yet Mittens HAS to. . . . . . (fill in the blank)



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Difference is, in Obama's case people are speaking about bat# crazy birther accusations...and in Romney's case it's a legitimate concern that he's hiding something (or that he's a fellon). Every president has released several years of tax returns, so aren't you at least a bit perplexed when Romney refuses to do just that?

A TON of presidents haven't released what those bat# crazy birthers want from Obama...yet for some reason they only now get outraged about it, now that the president isn't white. And no, that's not playing the race card, that's stating a highly suspicious coincidence.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by beezzer
 


Difference is, in Obama's case people are speaking about bat# crazy birther accusations...and in Romney's case it's a legitimate concern that he's hiding something (or that he's a fellon). Every president has released several years of tax returns, so aren't you at least a bit perplexed when Romney refuses to do just that?

A TON of presidents haven't released what those bat# crazy birthers want from Obama...yet for some reason they only now get outraged about it, now that the president isn't white. And no, that's not playing the race card, that's stating a highly suspicious coincidence.




Is Romney required to release 10 years of taxes?

Is he?
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer



Is Romney required to release 10 years of taxes?

Is he?
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Nope. He is not 'required" to be President either...lets see how this works out for him



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by beezzer



Is Romney required to release 10 years of taxes?

Is he?
edit on 18-7-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)


Nope. He is not 'required" to be President either...lets see how this works out for him


Ahhh, an answer.

(I was getting lonely
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Voting will have to answer that "president" issue.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by beezzer
 


Difference is, in Obama's case people are speaking about bat# crazy birther accusations...and in Romney's case it's a legitimate concern that he's hiding something (or that he's a fellon). Every president has released several years of tax returns, so aren't you at least a bit perplexed when Romney refuses to do just that?

A TON of presidents haven't released what those bat# crazy birthers want from Obama...yet for some reason they only now get outraged about it, now that the president isn't white. And no, that's not playing the race card, that's stating a highly suspicious coincidence.




Is Romney required to release 10 years of taxes?

Is he?
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No...but every president did, whereas they didn't when it comes to college records and the other stuff


By the way, when I say "he doesn't have to", that's of course only until the SEC starts an investigation. My guess is Romney's lawyers advised him to remain silent, it's the only explanation that makes sense. They told him that because it's likely he lied to the SEC. We'll see what happens, the SEC isn't really known for going hard after people


By the way, anyone up for betting on who wins? I'll bet against Romney because:

1) He doesn't have the latino vote...and that alone makes it clear he's almost bound to lose.
2) This tax return stuff hurts him a ton.
3) Even conservative pundits are turning against him on this.
4) A ton of the GOP base don't like him.





Funny how Obama's all tough when running campaigns, but then all weak when it comes to actual policies.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ


By the way, anyone up for betting on who wins?



I'll place a wager.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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If he lied to the SEC and is guilty of all things claimed against him, he would have never run for office or gotten this far. If he is guilty of all things and still made it this far, I am convinced that our nation has indeed spiraled out of control.

From everything that I read regarding his IRA investment, it was all legal and within the boundaries. That's why guys like Romney and Obama hire accountants and tax attorney's. Oddly, he will pay a larger tax rate when he withdraws that money than he would pay in Capital Gains taxes from more conventional investments.

Definitely strange...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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He doesn't have the latino vote...and that alone makes it clear he's almost bound to lose.


In comes Marco Rubio for VP.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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If he lied to the SEC and is guilty of all things claimed against him, he would have never run for office or gotten this far. If he is guilty of all things and still made it this far, I am convinced that our nation has indeed spiraled out of control.

From everything that I read regarding his IRA investment, it was all legal and within the boundaries. That's why guys like Romney and Obama hire accountants and tax attorney's. Oddly, he will pay a larger tax rate when he withdraws that money than he would pay in Capital Gains taxes from more conventional investments.

Definitely strange...


We don't know what else is in those tax returns


As for "he would have never gotten that far": They picked SARAH PALIN for crying out loud!! A donkey on acid would have figured out that can't end well after speaking to her for more than 10min. There's an entire comedy genre only because of her amazing speeches. McCain lost a TON of votes because of her. So clearly the GOP's "HR department" didn't do their job.

What makes you think they did this time? What if Romney was so hungry for power that he simply went "nah, they won't care about that"


Either way, the FACT remains: Every single president has released numerous years, and Romney didn't. It's really weird because not releasing them clearly hurts his campaign...so whatever is in those tax returns would have to hurt his campaign more for him to not release them. Think about it!! Why on earth would he hurt his campaign by not releasing them? Releasing something that EVERY PRESIDENT has released in the past.

And you know what's even funnier? McCain "vouching" for Romney's tax returns...before going "no, I don't think he should present more years"


So basically: "Trust me dog, it's all good!"



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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He doesn't have the latino vote...and that alone makes it clear he's almost bound to lose.


In comes Marco Rubio for VP.
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Rubio doesn't want to run with Romney because he knows Romney's now the fall guy, he's supposed to lose. That's the only explanation for why even so many rightwing pundits now speak out against Romney.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ


Rubio doesn't want to run with Romney because he knows Romney's now the fall guy, he's supposed to lose. That's the only explanation for why even so many rightwing pundits now speak out against Romney.


More to the point, since Pres. Obama's executive Order on immigration, Rubio no longer has an immigration plan. Kaput...But what are the odds anyone will ask him his plan on immigration? Being a token latino VP Nominee and all. Rubio could always offer an expanded version of what President Obama is leaning toward, but how would that go over with the GOP base? Rubio is cornered...his usefulness as a VP pick evaporated the minute President Obama issued the executive order.

Romney has no good VP choices...the good ones don't see value in climbing on board a sinking ship.



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