Obama admits failure to turn Washington around

Originally posted by zroth

Originally posted by daaskapital

Obama admits failure to turn Washington around

This is the problem with our micro-blog society.

There is little to no context yet everyone applies their conditioned response to 8 words.

Speak for yourself. I responded to the content of the full article. That's why I say he didn't admit anything. He just blamed.

reply to post by daaskapital


It must be a peculiar feeling for Americans to have a President willing to say "Sorry - I couldn't actually achieve this"

Sticking up for Obama or ridiculing him is the same thing: a waste of time. He, or any other politician, do not make policy. They are not bright enough or motivated enough to do so. Not their gig. Sure on paper it is, but not in reality today.

I guess I can agree with a truism late on in the interview (and I paraphrase) 'no one in DC is interested in problem solving, just politics' (read: money and control).

So if you want to jump on the blame train, go ahead but it demonstrates a clear separation from reality. The same holds true for supporting the man or any other politician. Those claiming Democrats and Republicans ties or loyalty really need put down the crack pipe and take a good look at where their actions and words have taken this country.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by daaskapital

 

It must be a peculiar feeling for Americans to have a President willing to say "Sorry - I couldn't actually achieve this"

This would be fine if obama had the capacity to tell the truth, but sadly he is not sorry at all.. Everything he has done has been done quite purposely supporting wall street bankers and corporate lobbyists, paybacks, kickbacks, graft etc...
Actually helping America as a whole? Not that anyone can see..

He failed to turn Washington around but he certainly didn't fail to turn his promise not to re-authorize the patriot act around.

reply to post by Valhall


Defensive much? I tend to follow the 80/20 rule versus focus on the exception. Having said that, good job. You also saw the fallacies presented.

As a rule, society picks a side based on little to know to context.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by daaskapital

 

Yes. Unfortunately for Obama, there are still people out in DC who don't think Big Government is the answer for everything.

*whaa*

It's not the answer? Woah.. then i've been lied to...

I don't think Obama wanted to curtail the size of government Beez, I think he just thought everyone would see his ideas his way and just rubber stamp his plans... which didn't work out quite as written..

Originally posted by alienreality

Originally posted by TsukiLunar

Originally posted by Valhall
He hasn't admitted anything. He just blamed everything on somebody else.

Mind if I ask who?

He said he failed to change the atmosphere.. -what he is saying is it is everyone elses fault, because he tried, but no one listened..

But reality really is, all of his actions had the effect he really wanted.. destruction for everything he touched.

He even blames the rest of America for the need to destroy it.

Once a political culture is established in Washington, it is hard to change it. If you try too hard to make everyone follow you, you may end up being unpopular and have the entire parliament/House of Commons against you.

Originally posted by sputniksteve


Can you name a congress from either side that had a different agenda when an opposite party president was in office? I mean it's not like this is a new game we are playing, this is called politics to most people.

Without entirely disagreeing with your point. I think one could make the case that a majority of Dems in Congress durring the Bush Admin bent over backwards to kowtow to the Bush agenda when it came to 'national defense', iraq, patriot acts, etc.

Originally posted by ABNARTY
Sticking up for Obama or ridiculing him is the same thing: a waste of time. He, or any other politician, do not make policy. They are not bright enough or motivated enough to do so. Not their gig. Sure on paper it is, but not in reality today.

I guess I can agree with a truism late on in the interview (and I paraphrase) 'no one in DC is interested in problem solving, just politics' (read: money and control).

So if you want to jump on the blame train, go ahead but it demonstrates a clear separation from reality. The same holds true for supporting the man or any other politician. Those claiming Democrats and Republicans ties or loyalty really need put down the crack pipe and take a good look at where their actions and words have taken this country.

This is exactly right.

At the end of the day, all this posturing from both sides is about control and, hence, power. It's the perpetual struggle to either wrest power from one side or maintain power on the other side. The good of the country is secondary to this main objective. There is no compromise; only strict division along party lines. Obama is for it? Republicans are against it. Obama is against it? Republicans are for it. It's asinine and, frankly, reflects a child like mentality.

Now before the GOP supporters among us screech "Liberal!"... I'm not. I am a registered Independent who can see there are benefits to both ideologies. It doesn't have to be an either/or proposition and I hate when we are forced into such a decision. Why can't we have both lower taxes AND government benefit programs like SS? I don't think this is an impossibility though both sides will try and make you think that.

It has been the extremes on both sides that have driven this country into the ditch. One side wants to give away the farm and the other one wants to padlock their wallets shut. It's all ridiculous and certainly doesn't reflect rational thinking.

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by daaskapital

 

He still admitted that Washington hasn't changed much... Yes i did read the source!

He should have just lied, would that make you feel better? Seriously, what do you expect from him? Hes not a freaking Jedi. He cant just mind trick the republicans into liking him.

That's right he is not a Jedi! He was born on the planet Crypton!

reply to post by daaskapital


Let me make sure my facts are straight.

The economy crashed under a republican administration.
The republican answer for the economy was to give tax breaks to the rich even in a time of war.
They told us these tax breaks would create jobs. The tax breaks are still in effect.

Obama wins the election in 2008, he was able to get his ACA pasted into law. Then the tea party came on the scene and poured more money into a mid term election than any other one in history. The House of Representatives was bought by AFP and other tea party funds and sense then Congress has followed its political ideology instead or practicing partisan politics to pull America out of the depression.

They blame Obama for the skyrocketing deficit, however Congress [the House of Representatives, controlled by republicans] has the power of the purse. And they blame Obama for unemployment, when he has done what the republicans said would spur job growth [Bush Tax Cuts].

Originally posted by vkey08

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by daaskapital

 

Yes. Unfortunately for Obama, there are still people out in DC who don't think Big Government is the answer for everything.

*whaa*

It's not the answer? Woah.. then i've been lied to...

I don't think Obama wanted to curtail the size of government Beez, I think he just thought everyone would see his ideas his way and just rubber stamp his plans... which didn't work out quite as written..

Obama's poblem is the he is divisive.
On subjects ranging from race, religion, wealth; the community organiser only knows how to polarise, and then has the temerity to complain about it.

Originally posted by beezzer


Obama's poblem is the he is divisive.
On subjects ranging from race, religion, wealth; the community organiser only knows how to polarise, and then has the temerity to complain about it.

Honestly, what exactly has he done that is so divisive?

Are you sure it's not just the right's constant vitriolic response to everything about him (he's a Muslim Socialist Commie from Kenya) that creates all of the division you're experiencing?

Originally posted by DarkKnight21

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by beezzer

 

a house divided cant stand.........
quote from some patriot guy.......

when the houses are at a stalemate, the country suffers
thats all im saying here.

People claimed that quote was from Abraham Lincoln, but it's biblical too. Mark 3:25.

Of course nothing is helping to close the gap between the Republicans and Democrats. Obama has driven the wedge further. Just look at the big issues that are being talked about in the coming election. Entire party platforms being formed around stances on healthcare and gay marriage. It's the typical Big Government vs Small Government argument, with more government being the only compromise.

The trillions of dollars he has put us in debt, will be the only discussion soon.

Of course he's failed, he got elected into office and the Republicans main goal was to get him out of office.

Not much room to bridge the divide when the other side seeks to impeach you any way possible.

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by beezzer


Obama's poblem is the he is divisive.
On subjects ranging from race, religion, wealth; the community organiser only knows how to polarise, and then has the temerity to complain about it.

Honestly, what exactly has he done that is so divisive?

Are you sure it's not just the right's constant vitriolic response to everything about him (he's a Muslim Socialist Commie from Kenya) that creates all of the division you're experiencing?

If it wasn't playing the race card or putting colour of skin before content of character, or the total disregard of the catholics churches wishes when it came to mandated birth control, or the constant class warfare. . . . .

Then I don't know what would convince you.

"The question right now for the American people is which vision, mine or Mr Romney's is most likely to deliver for those folks, because that is where the majority of American people live."

Oh really, the only options are you and Romney? Aren't you forgetting RON FING PAUL?

Reply to post by beezzer

Lol, Obama never played the race card....ever. White republicans and the right wing media were determined to bring it up at every turn though. Hes a muslim! He was born in Kenya! HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN! He only won because of white guilt! Then when other media outlets pointed out the fact that no other president had ever been treated that way and exaimed how race affected everything people like you pretend it wasnt a factor..lol please. As for the Catholic church, who gives a crap. America is not a theocracy to bad for them.


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Originally posted by acmpnsfal
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Lol, Obama never played the race card....ever. White republicans and the right wing media were determined to bring it up at every turn though. Hes a muslim! He was born in Kenya! HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN! He only won because of white guilt! Then when other media outlets pointed out the fact that no other president had ever been treated that way and exaimed how race affected everything people like you pretend it wasnt a factor..lol please. As for the Catholic church, who gives a crap. America is not a theocracy to bad for them.

 

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