Reverse discrimination at your job centre. How is this leaflet acceptable? (United Kingdom)

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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by Argyll
I think we both agree on that point, however, I direct you back to my earlier post, In areas of Manchester, white people are in a minority, and are disadvantaged......would a leaflet presented in the local job centre, asking for white only applicants be acceptable?.....yes or no?


And herein lies the crux of the issue that those who support such "affirmative" action will simply refuse to even acknowledge.

Of course it wouldn't be acceptable and rightly so, just as this thing being done in Leeds isn;t acceptable. I also find it odd that they are referring to Black and Asians as the minority in Leeds.... I've been to Leeds, if they are going to claim that, you might as well say Birmingham is an Anglo-Saxon stronghold...




posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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And herein lies the crux of the issue that those who support such "affirmative" action will simply refuse to even acknowledge. Of course it wouldn't be acceptable and rightly so, just as this thing being done in Leeds isn;t acceptable. I also find it odd that they are referring to Black and Asians as the minority in Leeds.... I've been to Leeds, if they are going to claim that, you might as well say Birmingham is an Anglo-Saxon stronghold...


Finally someone "gets it"
........racism is a two way street!



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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I would say that Leeds is an average city. There are indeed concentrations of certain minorities, just like the separation of rich and poor people on either end of town - that's normal. However, when "Blacks" and minorities can and are going to the same schools as white people, i see no reason why anyone should receive any extra help purely because of their race! We all technically got the same opportunity to do well.

If the intention is to live in a society where all are equal then this type of stuff needs tostop. You cant keep discriminating while preaching equal opportunity. The double standard is ridiculous not to mention it undermines social cohesion. This is exactly what cause's divides in the first place.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 01:56 AM
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It is not "reverse discrimination", I mean what is that even? That implies that white racists are the main racist. Which in itself is kinda racist towards yourself lol...

I would just call it plain old discrimination! Why specify some specific type when it's towards white people?

It makes me laugh really! Round where I live I would say 90% of taxi drivers are ethnic as well as 90% of shop/restaurant owners/workers are ethnic! They seem to be doing pretty well to me!

Also they have very big houses and rent out other houses. My landlord is ethnic lmao... I don't see one group needing help over another! Even if white people had the biggest unemployment rate they would NEVER put out a leaflet saying whites only, NEVER! Black and ethnic groups would be shouting racism from the rooftops!

It is most definitely there to inspire devision in my opinion. Pretty sick really, racism is alive and well.
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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 02:15 AM
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Honey 2000 years of being one sided and benefiting off of others loss and your have a hissy fit over this ? You have got to be kidding me. You want all things equal ?

PUT ALL THINGS BACK.

They are called consequences for a reason. You don't like it, tough luck. Lots of people in the world deal with lots of things that they had nothing to do with. If it was tough luck for them back then, then it's tough luck for you now. It can't be all roses for you and all thorns for everyone else. You want to blame someone ? The ***** is still sitting on a powerless throne. Go take your complaints to her.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
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Honey 2000 years of being one sided and benefiting off of others loss and your have a hissy fit over this ? You have got to be kidding me. You want all things equal ?

PUT ALL THINGS BACK.

They are called consequences for a reason. You don't like it, tough luck. Lots of people in the world deal with lots of things that they had nothing to do with. If it was tough luck for them back then, then it's tough luck for you now. It can't be all roses for you and all thorns for everyone else. You want to blame someone ? The ***** is still sitting on a powerless throne. Go take your complaints to her.



I can assure you sweetheart i never benefited from anothers loss. You cant blame me for what other people did, that's ridiculous! That's like asking me to pay a dead man's tab.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 02:38 AM
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Oh, but you did . You most certainly did. You don't think so because you have been taught that everything you are and everything you have is as a result of your own doing. Ha. And just like your powerless, Queen, you are waking up to the harsh reality that the gig is up. All those chickens are coming home to roost, but on a global scale. That thing you like to talk about, I believe it's called Karma ?

Global Karma.

I am very happy for the "ethnics" as you call them. Those , dirty little "ethnics" who don't deserve to have the nice things. Those dirty, disgusting , unclean , wild and barbaric "ethnics'" Yeah. you don't think I knew what you meant by that. I knew EXACTLY what you meant by that. By the way. What are you ? I mean, you imply you are something else than an "ethnic"? Are you "non-ethnic" ?

Game Over.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 02:46 AM
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ROFLMAO.

So pitiful.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
 


Honey 2000 years of being one sided and benefiting off of others loss and your have a hissy fit over this ? You have got to be kidding me. You want all things equal ?

PUT ALL THINGS BACK.

They are called consequences for a reason. You don't like it, tough luck. Lots of people in the world deal with lots of things that they had nothing to do with. If it was tough luck for them back then, then it's tough luck for you now. It can't be all roses for you and all thorns for everyone else. You want to blame someone ? The ***** is still sitting on a powerless throne. Go take your complaints to her.



I agree with you. It is amazing how people squeal about any effort the government takes to level the playing field for minorities.

They complain about the most disadvantaged citizens getting targeted help and view it as a slight against themselves. It is most definitely racism when one objects to helping others when they are minorities.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:24 AM
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Not the most clever leaflet to hand out in one of the most racially charged area's of the UK, with the tension between the Asian Muslim community and the whites its going annoy.

Personally as the lady OP said the job centre is there to provide work for all colours and creeds, showing a preference is never a right thing to do. What is actually more annoying is that young people in that age range in poor area's tend to be work shy for the most part, certainly on the estate I live on we have gang / groups of males and females of all colours who have left school and simply roam the streets getting up to no good. Most prefer the gang culture and make their money via that, the idea of doing an honest days work is simply not in their head.

Why work when you can steal, mug or make money from drugs...Pick your own hours, laze in bed all morning, go out do a few deals and have a wad of cash in your pocket.

Leaflets like this will not attract these types.

To be honest the leaflet reeks of exploitation, for me it says seeking the poor for under paid jobs or the like, I'm probably wrong but its how it looks.

I actually welcome anyone trying to offer work to the young but spread the love, don't target, its unfair and unkind.
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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
Oh, but you did . You most certainly did. You don't think so because you have been taught that everything you are and everything you have is as a result of your own doing. Ha. And just like your powerless, Queen, you are waking up to the harsh reality that the gig is up. All those chickens are coming home to roost, but on a global scale. That thing you like to talk about, I believe it's called Karma ?

Global Karma.

I am very happy for the "ethnics" as you call them. Those , dirty little "ethnics" who don't deserve to have the nice things. Those dirty, disgusting , unclean , wild and barbaric "ethnics'" Yeah. you don't think I knew what you meant by that. I knew EXACTLY what you meant by that. By the way. What are you ? I mean, you imply you are something else than an "ethnic"? Are you "non-ethnic" ?

Game Over.









Denying Ignorance



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady

Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
 


Honey 2000 years of being one sided and benefiting off of others loss and your have a hissy fit over this ? You have got to be kidding me. You want all things equal ?

PUT ALL THINGS BACK.

They are called consequences for a reason. You don't like it, tough luck. Lots of people in the world deal with lots of things that they had nothing to do with. If it was tough luck for them back then, then it's tough luck for you now. It can't be all roses for you and all thorns for everyone else. You want to blame someone ? The ***** is still sitting on a powerless throne. Go take your complaints to her.



I agree with you. It is amazing how people squeal about any effort the government takes to level the playing field for minorities.

They complain about the most disadvantaged citizens getting targeted help and view it as a slight against themselves. It is most definitely racism when one objects to helping others when they are minorities.


Thank you for seeing it the right way.

And I think at the heart of every racist, there lies one greedy selfish soul as well.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:08 AM
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Yeah. Go ahead and chuckle. But you are the one throwing a fit and feeling all uncomfortable because people who are not white are finally being given the chances they should have gotten long ago. You may be laughing at me on a little puny website, but the whole world is laughing at you.

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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:12 AM
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This is just one more example of what happens in a culturally marxist society. Regardless of the political persuasion of the incumbent government the public services are completely polluted by the ideologies of the filthy left. Schools, Health Services, etc deliberatly feed the victim mentalitiy of minorities in order to undermine the forces (such as strong family units) that are capable of resisting the bat sh.t crazy ideologies of the socialist [read marxist] destroyers.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:17 AM
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The leaflet is for training and not jobs!

The only tension in Leeds is from illiterate white people who only concentrate on what minorities have on their plates.

The UK is a country where 99.9% of the elite is white. If you are a white person and your are a failure in life, it is no fault of minorities.

You are not disadvantaged by the help they get; you are disadvantaged by your own stupidity.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:18 AM
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Whatever "ism" you want to throw out there, I guarantee you it's more attractive than Colonialism. Had it not be for Colonialism, the whole entire planet would be much better off than it is today. But no. As soon as the greedy selfish devils decided they wanted everything.........we have had nothing........... but problems. All the problems of the world can find their genesis in COLONIALISM. And now the whole world is waking up to the truth.

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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:20 AM
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discrimination!
if the black, ethinic minority was changed to caucasian, all hell would break loose.
one of the only time you are allowed to advertise over here for a specific ethnicity, race, sex ect is for actors,actress's and extra's.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:29 AM
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I did not use any ism's in my post. You come over in your posts as being exteremely butthurt or having a victim mentality. Im not judging you, or your opinions I would ask you if consider colonialism to be responsible for all the worlds ills, how many members of ethnic minorities would be prepared to their respective countries of origin today?.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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That's bull crap.

I am married to a "minority". I have worked around minorities my whole life day in and day out in their neighborhoods.

I am pissed at this. This is the sort of mentality that makes them think they need special help. NO.

They WERE a minority but their populations have grown to such numbers that now whites may be the minority in some areas.

Affirmative action is bull crap. Policy along these lines is what keeps generation after generation hooked on welfare. People don't need to be told how they will have all provided to them just for being born.

I remember seeing a news story about the poverty in Sevilla, Spain. People were so lazy they would harass the local church for food. The church was small and did what they could. They would give groceries to 2 or 3 people a day and feed a couple others. They got so used to it that they thought it was their right.
They were literally screaming in a nuns face demanding more food.

I understand how things can get you down and make you crazy. That should motivate you to move your ass and get the hell out of that situation. They resign themselves when things don't work out exactly as planned because they have been told its either the "plan" or nothing. Either the government can support you or not. They don't even consider supporting themselves as an option.

This is slightly different than welfare but the mentality is the same. So because you MAY come across racism, all jobs you apply for should guarantee that as a minority you get first pick. Not that you need talent, more education, or experience you gained from working hard for less. No. You need a skin color.

So when you don't get a job it's not because you need to increase your marketable skills. No, It's the man getting you down. Throw your hands in the air and scream "lordy lordy". Be the typical stereo type they want you to be.

OR be a rational human being, ask them why not and try and work on that. Then try again. Don't just assume that justice for you should be at the cost of justice for others. Especially when it comes in the form of employment.

May the best man win. Second place......may that guy learn why he failed and overcome it.

If there is going to be an engineered race war this is why. This is how, and this is the because. This mentality of "gimme daddy government at whatever cost you say, just gimme"


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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 05:34 AM
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I know that 'positive discrimination' goes on and I remember going to the job centre at aged 26 and being one year too old to enter an apprenticeship or getting any help setting up a bussiness, the job centre really is useless unless you are someone that needs very basic skills and training.

However, as I suspected the group that this leaflet originates from is a charity, not a government organisation.


www.pathyorkshire.org.uk...



PATH is a Positive Action Training organisation set up under Sections 37 & 38 of the Race Relations Act in 1985. PATH is a registered charity (Reg.No.1939658), with an active waiting list of hundreds of Black and Minority Ethnic (BME) people interested in taking up a PATH traineeship, we continue to take primary position in creating work based training opportunities for over 25 years in mainstream and vocational roles. .........

............where research has identified that BME people are under-represented in a particular occupation or labour sector, then it is lawful for PATH to create and provide training that will equip them to compete for employment in these sectors.



Generally a charity can help who it wants. I think this would be different if this was government policy that said ethnic minorities will recieve training or help from the job centre but white people will not. As I said before, unless you are the dregs of society (any race) the job centre is pretty useless in getting you help or a job, they just want you in some dead end job and off their books.
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