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Ex-FBI Employee Claims She Saw No Bodies But Many Angels From Flight 93

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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 04:32 AM
I'd at least believe Angels over the building 7 story.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 05:42 AM
Irrespective of your view on Angels and spiritualism (I don't believe by the way) if this person saw Angels and no bodies this does not mean there were no bodies. IF angels exist then they are they because there were dead people. This means the bodies had been incinerated.

So logically the presence of Angels and no bodies absolutely does not mean the plane was empty........

So no mystery save an FBI agent with visions !

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:20 AM

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
No wonder she is ex-FBI. Shes clearly insane.

Well done, the most obvious and childish reply of the day goes to you.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:27 AM

Originally posted by ezekielken
reply to post by trysts

Didn't the tally-ban actually hijack a farmers ultralight and load it with a martyr and ten thousand discounted bottle rockets and fly it into the ground at shanksville? the real flight 93 was landed on the white house lawn, during the saudi exempt no fly, and its occupants quickly processed into shirts and skins and placed in holding for future pick-up basketball games.

Sorry, I didn't read ESPN's account of flight 93, but I imagine Adam Sandler will star in the Paul Greengrass film about it.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:36 AM

Originally posted by claireaudient
I may be off the mark here because I'm not familiar with the intensity of flame or temperature from burning jet fuel but is it possible that the bodies of those on board were incinerated?

Jet fuel in open air burns at a maximum of 600 degrees F. The temperature of a crematory chamber used to incinerate bodies is from about 1800 to 2100 degrees F. And even that high temperature crematorium will sometimes not fully incinerate bone shards.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:47 AM
Angels. Uh-huh.

Certainly sounds like a reliable witness. Let's listen to what else crazy nuts has to say.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:51 AM

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
I always felt that Flight 93 was bombed mid-flight, so there wouldn't be much of anything left.

If she says she saw spirits, or angels, whatever, then I believe her. Reality for everybody is subjective, and who are we to say what is a lie and what is the truth when it comes to the supernatural?

Neat story, thanks for sharing it OP!

If reality is subjective, then we can't say anything about the flight, can we. Maybe it was bombed in your reality, and crashed in mine, it all becomes nonsense, and this subjective reality stuff seems like a far-fetched ploy to make her obviously unreliable account somehow accurate.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:57 AM
Angels? No they were time travellers from the future researching the 911 event. No doubt they had been educated about it in school and chose to see it first hand. Did that women mention any thing about the angels wearing tin foil hats?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 07:39 AM
many years in law enforcement and experience with scenes like this, healthy pension to retire on, it just doesn't add up that she would be making it up. as to what she saw well i guess it's subjective and personal for her.

me being a spiritual person, not religious mind you, my belief would say she saw spirits coming to escort there loved ones home after such a traumatic event.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 07:51 AM

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
many years in law enforcement and experience with scenes like this, healthy pension to retire on, it just doesn't add up that she would be making it up. as to what she saw well i guess it's subjective and personal for her.

me being a spiritual person, not religious mind you, my belief would say she saw spirits coming to escort there loved ones home after such a traumatic event.

This comment reminded me of the days when I could trust law enforcement officers. Today, if a law enforcement officer believes in angels, I'm just not surprised. Some seem like they express no reasoning, whatsoever.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 07:57 AM
reply to post by trysts

i agree whole heartedly but to assume they are all that way would be foolish just the same.

i think she saw something and she wrote about it, simple as that.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Blueracer
reply to post by FissionSurplus

Once again...she says she saw "shimmery lights". How does that become angels? Now, certain people will say that she saw angels when, in reality, that is very likely untrue.

She writes: 'The white mist then began to take shape. It moved and swirled in patterns of spectacular white light.

'All at once, the mist took full shape and I saw what appeared to be angels. There were angels standing in the open area to the left of the crash site.

There were hundreds of them standing in columns. There was a field of angels emerging from the realms of the mist. They were Archangels with their wings arched up toward the sky.'

Read more: XKh9e

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 08:25 AM
people need to use discernment, if you cannot tell what a crash site of a large aeroplane looks like, why don't you just google for images.
What you wont find is ANYTHING that looks like the shankesville crash site.
The entire plane vanishing into the ground is a story that only the mentally deficient, or, young children would believe, but with current IQ's i can see why people still believe in fairy stories.
ATS i thought better of you generally.
Deny ignorance, especially your own, google for images of crash sites and compare them.

Planes are destroyed during the process of highspeed impact, pieces break off, are ripped off, on impact.
To even begin to accept "The plane vanished entirely into ground" is idiocy of the highest order, when a plane strikes water, water tears pieces of it off, water is a lot less dense than the soil at shanksville.
If water was not such an issue to planes, whenever there was a highspeed emergency, they could just put the plane in water, in fact airfields would be built next to large bodies of water, just in case of emergency.
Fairy stories, believed by the masses, unwilling or incapable of using their God given intelligence to discern truth.
I feel sorry for a lot of you people.

This plane a bit smaller is just one instance of the pieces that are left after impact, some parts of the aircraft are more prone to become separated on impact, this is why traveling in tail sections is regarded as better during impacts.

Helios airways flight 522 impact site

Some good shanksville research
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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 08:57 AM
So how much jet fuel do you have to inhale before you start to hallucinate?

I only say that because there were no winged angels described in the bible-this came later during the 4th century AD.

Portrayals of angels in Christian art began to change with the advent of Constantine's reign as emperor of Rome in the 4th century.
The council of Nicea in 325. A.D. formed Christianity as the religion of the state, and it was after this that angels with wings, baby angels, and female angels, as well as halos, began to appear in Christian art. Prior to this period Christian art did not portray angels with wings so as not to give the impression of paying homage to a host of pagan deities as did the ancient Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians.

And although the Cherubim and Seraphim had wings,they were not the same as the angels of the bible:

Cherubim appear to have been the Hebrew adaptation of a Sumerian image. Evidence in the bible indcates that they were perceived as sphinx-like creatures with human heads, the bodies of lions and two wings. The Ark of the Covenant was lavishly built with a golden mercy seat flanked by two golden cherubim. - Seraphim Described in Isaiah 6:2, seraphim were said to be part of God's retinue and it seems they were creatures of fire (seraph means 'burn'), with six wings.

Therefore,I would say this lady suffered from a form of hallucination,which tied into her pre existing idea of winged angels,due to the shock of the situation,possibly combined with the effects of inhaling jet fuel vapours.

A decent book on the subject of angels I once read:

Explains a great deal on the matter I think.

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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:06 AM
reply to post by ColoradoJens

"And I didn't say anything to the guys because you can imagine if I would have said, 'I just saw angels on the crash site,' they'd have called the office and they'd have said, 'She lost her mind and tell her to go home.'

The last sentence says it all. The fact she was the only one seeing this means it was in her mind, which means she is probably a bit mental.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:07 AM

Originally posted by trollz
No bodies? My dad was there and he saw body parts on the ground.

Pics, evidence ??

Nothing was found at the crash site, and LOL at Alfie, that link is hilarious, and does not describe the crash area at all...but the surrounding 1000's of acres of land...

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:08 AM
reply to post by trysts

YEP, TRYSTS...the first reporters therein a helicopter with a videocam said right on the broadcast there was "not enough debris to fill a suitcase"

as they panned the area from close-in
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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:14 AM
if she could smell jet fuel(whitch is highly potent,not like smelling gas while filling ur car) she could have been trippin in the brain from the fuel, just saying.

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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:00 AM
reply to post by Silcone Synapse

The word "cherubims" derives from the Hebrew word keruwb, and refers to an angelic being with four wings (Strong's Concordance H3742). In the book of Isaiah, seraphims are described as having six wings. This word derives from the Hebrew word saraph, which also refers to an angelic being, and comes from the root word which means to burn (Strong's H8313-14). This description of what an angelic being is composed of accords with Psalms 104:4 which describes angels as flaming fire.

Read more at Suite101: History of Winged Angels in Christian Art |

From your link

A long time ago a lady I was caring for was very ill, I prayed for angels to round about and protect her, later that week I went to see her, she told me an angel came into her room and cradled her in his arms, the next day her fever broke and she was fine.

I never told her about praying for her.

Yes I believe there is something beyond our imagination and I believe back in the days of the prophets perhaps they were more attuned to these things.

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