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Originally posted by donhuangenaro
you can say that militant islam will be defeated only if you are very disconnected from reality (or very unintelligent)...
Originally posted by yourmaker
what about Militant Judaism? Militant Christianity?
You mean Southern Redneck Hardcore Christians, with guns and bombs, going around killing people in the name of Jesus Christ?
Originally posted by Anonymous404
If Israel would stop making it a religious debate and realize that politics and military intervention are really to blame then they might get somewhere, but I doubt that will be the case.
They're so worried about having their little religion taken away that they have to try to take it away from others.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Israel is no different to northern ireland, cyprus, kashmir, sri lanka, southern sudan, etc.edit on 24/6/12 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by g2v12
Now you had to bring up slavery.
Please stay on topic
Originally posted by donhuangenaro
you can say that militant islam will be defeated only if you are very disconnected from reality (or very unintelligent)...
look what is happening with 'arab spring' (read: militant extremist spring)... the countries that were moderate islam are now becoming extremist...
and the irony is: usa and israel are helping them gain power:
www.huffingtonpost.com...
A secret CIA effort to vet rebel forces fighting the Syrian government and help U.S. allies steer arms toward factions likely to be sympathetic to American interests is fraught with dangers not seen in other recent clandestine operations, policy analysts said.
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Introduction to basic facts of history:
Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC.
In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
This Hubal was a moon god.
One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:
About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
"al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
Islams roots are in paganism.
"If a Muslim says, "Your God and our God is the same," either he does not understand who Allah and Christ really are, or he intentionally glosses over the deep-rooted differences." (Who Is Allah In Islam?, Abd-Al Masih, Light of Life, 1985, p. 36.)
Now there dwelt in Mecca a god called Allah. He was the provider, the most powerful of all the local deities, the one to whom every Meccan turned in time of need. But, for all his power, Allah was a remote god. At the time of Muhammad, however, he was on the ascendancy. He had replaced the moon god as lord of the Kaaba although still relegated to an inferior position below various tribal idols and three powerful goddesses: al-Manat, goddess of fate, al-Lat, mother of the gods, and al-Uzza, the planet Venus. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)
Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by g2v12
No white trash hypocrisy here, just stick to the facts.
www.bible.ca...
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Introduction to basic facts of history:
Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC.
In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
This Hubal was a moon god.
One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:
About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
"al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
Islams roots are in paganism.
"If a Muslim says, "Your God and our God is the same," either he does not understand who Allah and Christ really are, or he intentionally glosses over the deep-rooted differences." (Who Is Allah In Islam?, Abd-Al Masih, Light of Life, 1985, p. 36.)
Now there dwelt in Mecca a god called Allah. He was the provider, the most powerful of all the local deities, the one to whom every Meccan turned in time of need. But, for all his power, Allah was a remote god. At the time of Muhammad, however, he was on the ascendancy. He had replaced the moon god as lord of the Kaaba although still relegated to an inferior position below various tribal idols and three powerful goddesses: al-Manat, goddess of fate, al-Lat, mother of the gods, and al-Uzza, the planet Venus. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)
"The only reason people put more blame on judaism than christianity and islam is because jews have a superiority complex to rule the world. Very few, if any, work with their hands in manual labor. All managerial jobs that demand the highest possible pay....that is if they are not outright owners of said enterprise. “
Originally posted by redneck13
Sudanese Islamic Scholar Sheik Atiyya Muhammad
As far as most militant Islam goes, its just sad joke. Here is an example of what Islam calls a scholar. They are going to destroy the US and kill president Obama. My guess is they are starting a new devastating program of storming the white house with herds of goats trained as suicide bombers.
BTW, facial recognition technology is now integrated into drone operating system. PLEASE send more pictures of your favorite militant Islamic leader.
Originally posted by Rocketman7
reply to post by Rocketman7
Yes we are going to arrange a back-room deal with the Palestinians buy them out and build golf courses and a Disneyland. (Thats what we do)
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Something is rotten in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. But let me come back to that later.
In December 1992 a mob of 150,000 Hindu nationalists attacked a 15th-century mosque in the Indian city of Ayodhya. Within hours, the mosque was reduced to rubble and in the weeks to follow, thousands of Indians died in Hindu-Muslim riots.
The Muslim world reacted in outrage. Among the countries that expressed anger at the destruction of the centuries-old Indian mosque by Hindu extremists was Saudi Arabia. Here in Canada, imams gave fiery sermons and urged congregations to protest.
Although more than a dozen years have passed since the destruction of the mosque, there is still bitterness in the air. Muslims worldwide feel a sense of betrayal and impotence at not being able to control their own destiny and protect their historical religious sites.
However, a Muslim site far more significant than the Babri mosque is facing destruction, but there is barely a murmur in protest. The site is none other than the home of Prophet Muhammad in the city of Mecca.
The demolition of Muhammad's 1,400-year-old home is not going to take place at the hands of non-Muslims or some occupying western army, but by the very people who have taken the title as protectors of Islam's two holiest mosques in Medina and Mecca: the Saudi royal family.
What makes this demolition worse is the fact that the home of the Prophet is to make way for a parking lot, two 50-storey hotel towers and seven 35-storey apartment blocks; a project known as the Jabal Omar Scheme, all within a stone's throw of the Grand Mosque.
Originally posted by g2v12
Originally posted by redneck13
Sudanese Islamic Scholar Sheik Atiyya Muhammad
As far as most militant Islam goes, its just sad joke. Here is an example of what Islam calls a scholar. They are going to destroy the US and kill president Obama. My guess is they are starting a new devastating program of storming the white house with herds of goats trained as suicide bombers.
BTW, facial recognition technology is now integrated into drone operating system. PLEASE send more pictures of your favorite militant Islamic leader.
You have a propensity for information that normalizes scant stereotypes, which tags you as a person who suffers from a fanatical compunction for Islamophobia.
Being subjected to people who aren't afraid to confront US imperialism is rather intimidating, even for anti-Semitic hate mongers.
If it doesn't fit into your world of God, Guns and Guts, it must be evil, or hey, maybe it does - Allah, Guns and Guts.
Its just the idea that you are so much like them, you are in total denial. Its sort of reminiscent of how Ahmadinejad hates Jews because he is one.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by yourmaker
what about Militant Judaism? Militant Christianity?
I agree completly with your statement and the reason militarism is mixed with religion is because the right wingers control both and many times fight among themselves for pseudo-supremacy of the regimes.
Religion and spiritualism are very different. One is based on social constructs and centuries of censorship and taking things out of concept, while the second is the pursuit of truth and happiness. Truth and happiness cannot take place with luciferian leaders at the helm.
Originally posted by redneck13
reply to post by g2v12
In your unclear way of primitive thinking, your argument holds merit if, there is no right or wrong. However, when the concepts you are implying are weighed in light of opinion of right and wrong its plain to see they have no realistic grounds whatsoever.
I have dealt with many other people like yourself who, upon inspection of the facts resorts to a personal attack of another poster because they are unable to deal with the fact that they are wrong. When someone is unable to defend their position, they resort to name calling out of frustration. Frankly, I cannot see where you have posted any statements or questions worthy of the time it takes for me to make a comment to you and if I did, I would then have to arrive at the conclusion that I can justify stooping myself to your level and create a post based on your flawed opinion. In addition, all maters should be kept in a civil accordance within the terms of service of this website.
Netanyahu a brilliant man that has an opinion. I believe he could very well be correct in his assumptions.
The catalysts for his statements are probably due to the fact the technological divide is growing exponentially between the free world and Islamic states. There are many new avenues of resources to employ in the war against militant Islam.
the X-47B is the future of U.S. Navy unmanned aviation.
edit on 24-6-2012 by redneck13 because: .