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Netanyahu: Militant Islam will be defeated by end of century

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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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1945. The end of Nazi Germany and the so-called "Final Solution," the Nazi program to exterminate the Jews. But was it the end? A German professor says that the spirit of the Final Solution did not die with the Nazi regime, but was passed to Israel's enemies in the Middle East.
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He says of Israel's enemies today: "They're not the Nazis. It's not the same, and Auschwitz was a singular crime. There are no gas chambers and stuff like this. But you can say the ideology of the Nazis is still alive and you see it by the arbitrary killing of Jews."
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One of the men most responsible for bringing Nazi style anti-Semitism to the Middle East was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, the highest Muslim authority in Palestine and an ardent admirer of the Nazis





posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by g2v12

In 1930s Germany the National Socialist propaganda media began its campaign of nationalism by claiming that Jews were a threat. They said Jews were going to control all of Europe and that they were hiding behind symbols of religion and piousness. They were a threat to the world.

There was the National Socialist Party's publication in the form of a child's story book, Der Giftpilz (The Poisonous Mushroom), which compared Jews to mushrooms. The analogy conceptualized that like a Jew, one could not tell which mushrooms were poisonous.

NSP media also published through a news paper, Der Stürmer (The Attacker), anti-Semitic caricatures and portrayals of Jews as categorical stereotypes engaging in activities such as blood libel (using infant's blood in sacrificial rituals), pornography, anti-Catholic, anti-capitalist and more.

Does all of this sound familiar? Your posts are filled with all sorts of ludicrous accusations about Muslims that are simply unfounded and obviously beyond the scope of your own reasoning capacity to discover.

Militancy doesn't define life for the ninety nine percent of the Muslim population anymore than YOUR particular group is defined by pedophilia, infidelity, murder, sexual perversion, spousal abuse, ignorance and so on.


The reason the above is familiar is due to YOUR application of the same principles of disinformation propaganda used by Nazis to stir up negative emotions against the Jews. Attempting to shift the focus back on your phony subject material doesn't make it legitimate.

I respect your right to practice free expression. I respect you as a person. I am willing to sacrifice my life as a soldier defending your right to exercise free speech and your rights, even if the foundation of your thought process is of a construct I vehemently disagree with.

Nevertheless, my deepest sense of brotherhood, justice and the pursuit of peace and prosperity is profoundly offended when I witness the public slaughter of every altruistic ideal that makes a civilization great.

If a person thus disposed to raising his own status at the expense of the rest of his society (and the world), and does so by a process of ethnic subjugation, he is the most nihilistic of all. His methods are more cunning and deceptive than that of his enemies.

History chronicles the systemic manner in which the nascence of poisoned truth spreads like a spiritual cancer, until it casts a dark spell over the people from whom it sprang.

There are still groups in Germany, the US and Europe who worship the Hitler god-figure. The Ninety nine and nine tenths percentile are of white, European, Christian descent.

There are also NO MUSLIM NAZIS or common goal, because Arab Muslims are direct descendants of the same genetic grouping from which emerged the Semitic tribes. In other words, Arabs (who you call Muslims) and Jews are of the Semite people. This means that Arab Muslims aren't Nazis or even pseudo Nazis. Neither is Islamism a simulation of Nazism, because it is based in a totally divergent reference point. Under the same facts, there are no anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic Arab Muslims. And there are certainly legitimate moral reasons for all good Muslims (and good Americans) to harbor disapproval toward Israeli and US policies that foster terrorism on both sides.

It may be true that Islamic extremists (like Nazis) would like to see Israel and all Jews buried, but this ideology represents a tiny fraction of over a billion Muslims of diverse ethnicity. And in fact, the 99.9% of Muslims the world over understand the teachings of prophet Muhammad, which is plainly against the killing of innocents.

I have seen original portraits of Adolf Hitler from a private collection and can say without reservation that they are indeed captivating, even to the trained mind. I have had the dubious opportunity to sit with fully indoctrinated Nazis (in gray) while they attempted to 'enlighten' me with the religious fervor of some down home evangelist preacher. Evil cause can be so attractively dressed in the cloak of poetic justice. It was a chilling experience.

Some of the ATS members might be mislead buy your effort to paint a picture of fear with false and demeaning idioms to obliterate an entire culture composed of human goodness, but most here are real thinkers and some are critical thinkers who do their homework.

ATS is likely to be known as the best and most popular online social forum because of its rules of engagement and decorum which are pretty well enforced. There are social watchdogs, scientists and professors who occasionally monitor and post here. I would suggest that you do some serious soul searching and come to terms with your ego and your shameful ignorance. You have NOT done your homework. Your posts and the premise of this thread is an insult to the potential of humanity, intellect and spirituality.

Be advised! - people informed with facts are watching.
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by redneck13
1945. The end of Nazi Germany and the so-called "Final Solution," the Nazi program to exterminate the Jews. But was it the end? A German professor says that the spirit of the Final Solution did not die with the Nazi regime, but was passed to Israel's enemies in the Middle East.
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He says of Israel's enemies today: "They're not the Nazis. It's not the same, and Auschwitz was a singular crime. There are no gas chambers and stuff like this. But you can say the ideology of the Nazis is still alive and you see it by the arbitrary killing of Jews."
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One of the men most responsible for bringing Nazi style anti-Semitism to the Middle East was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, the highest Muslim authority in Palestine and an ardent admirer of the Nazis




I am surprised that a real professor would say that Jews are 'arbitrarily killed' by Arab Muslims. For the past 64 years Israeli politics forced 1.2 million Palestinian (Arabs) to be herded into prison camps on their own land, with squalid conditions (cut off from commerce) much like those endured by the American native on desolate reservations. These vast prison camps receive electric and water utilities supplied by the Israeli government. My associates living there tell me that electricity and water services are routinely shut off for days, even weeks at a time. Is this what leads Palestinians to lob rockets into Israel or is it the result of rocket launching? Is it the egg or the chicken?

let's go back to where this conflict first began, before Arabs even had rockets to fire from the West Bank.

A policy of ethnic exclusion from Israeli government services and the unprovoked confiscation of Arab farmlands near Jerusalem and Haifa evolved into a systemic methodology of Arab subjugation by Israeli Jewish hardliners. The underlying ideology for this initiative against Arabs, was (and still is) the basis of Zionism, which is an extremist movement under the notion that Israel is only-for-Jews. As another example of this non-Democratic conservatism, Jewish converts (not born through a genetic lineage) are considered not-Jewish-enough and are therefore inferior.

The consequences of this ideology began in June of 1948, within days of international ratification of Israel's statehood. When Arabs protested their exclusion and the encroachment of private lands by military initiatives, they were incarcerated and deported, prohibited from returning to their family proprieties, traced back 600 years in many instances.

At the same time, organized (Jewish) Zionist terror groups such as one called, The Urgun, conducted many killings of Arabs, Israeli officials, including a hotel bomb attack between 1937 to 1948. The first truly modern terrorist groups of that region of the Middle East were in fact Jewish led militant groups.

In the Deir Yassin massacre (April 9, 1948), 120 fighters of the Zevai Leumi and Mohamed Herut Israel Zionist organizations attacked an Arab village on the outskirts of Jerusalem, raping teenage girls in front of their siblings and parents, before shooting them in the back of their heads in the streets. There were several corroborating accounts from those who had escaped. Approximately 150 Arab Muslims were murdered by the two terrorist groups. This caused an exodus that began with tens of thousands of Arab Muslims from the Jerusalem and Haifa areas. While the terror of more rape and death imposed on Arabs forced them to live in tents, Jews moved into empty Arab homes and farm plots filled with olive trees.

Until that moment in history (64 years ago) there was literally no social animosity between Jews and Arabs and interfaith marriage was not surprising. During WWII, Moroccan Arabs (Muslims) risked their lives to hide escaping Jews in their own homes. They risked being arrested and sentenced to hard labor at Nazi prison camps built in Morocco.

Your post didn't indicate the name of the professor or his qualifications. Its your responsibility to post from legitimate sources for your suppositions, especially when slandering an entire nation of people.

It does appear however that you arbitrarily paste nonsense from racist, anti-Semitic disinformation material that assumes everyone who reads is senselessly stupid and willing to accept anything at face value.

I don't see anything interesting happening here.







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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Amazing how megalomaniacal ideologies such as Islam and Nazism always hate Jews.Why is that?
If I were Jewish I would join one of those Zionist groups you keep talking about.


www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...(gen).html

The Treatment of Jews
in Arab/Islamic Countries
By Mitchell Bard

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Violence Against Jews

At various times, Jews in Muslim lands were able to live in relative peace and thrive culturally and economically. The position of the Jews was never secure, however, and changes in the political or social climate would often lead to persecution, violence and death. Jews were generally viewed with contempt by their Muslim neighbors; peaceful coexistence between the two groups involved the subordination and degradation of the Jews.

When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results: On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power.

Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.(6)

Other mass murders of Jews in Arab lands occurred in Morocco in the 8th century, where whole communities were wiped out by Muslim ruler Idris I; North Africa in the 12th century, where the Almohads either forcibly converted or decimated several communities; Libya in 1785, where Ali Burzi Pasha murdered hundreds of Jews; Algiers, where Jews were massacred in 1805, 1815 and 1830 and Marrakesh, Morocco, where more than 300 hundred Jews were murdered between 1864 and 1880.(7)

Decrees ordering the destruction of synagogues were enacted in Egypt and Syria (1014, 1293-4, 1301-2), Iraq (854-859, 1344) and Yemen (1676). Despite the Koran's prohibition, Jews were forced to convert to Islam or face death in Yemen (1165 and 1678), Morocco (1275, 1465 and 1790-92) and Baghdad (1333 and 1344).(8)

As distinguished Orientalist G.E. von Grunebaum has written:


It would not be difficult to put together the names of a very sizeable number of Jewish subjects or citizens of the Islamic area who have attained to high rank, to power, to great financial influence, to significant and recognized intellectual attainment; and the same could be done for Christians. But it would again not be difficult to compile a lengthy list of persecutions, arbitrary confiscations, attempted forced conversions, or pogroms.(9)

The situation of Jews in Arab lands reached a low point in the 19th century. Jews in most of North Africa (including Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Morocco) were forced to live in ghettos. In Morocco, which contained the largest Jewish community in the Islamic Diaspora, Jews were made to walk barefoot or wear shoes of straw when outside the ghetto. Even Muslim children participated in the degradation of Jews, by throwing stones at them or harassing them in other ways. The frequency of anti-Jewish violence increased, and many Jews were executed on charges of apostasy. Ritual murder accusations against the Jews became commonplace in the Ottoman Empire.(10)

By the twentieth century, the status of the dhimmi in Muslim lands had not significantly improved. H.E.W. Young, British Vice Consul in Mosul, wrote in 1909:


The attitude of the Muslims toward the Christians and the Jews is that of a master towards slaves, whom he treats with a certain lordly tolerance so long as they keep their place. Any sign of pretension to equality is promptly repressed.(11)

The danger for Jews became even greater as a showdown approached in the UN over partition in 1947. The Syrian delegate, Faris el-Khouri, warned: "Unless the Palestine problem is settled, we shall have difficulty in protecting and safeguarding the Jews in the Arab world."(12)

More than a thousand Jews were killed in anti-Jewish rioting during the 1940's in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Yemen.(13) This helped trigger the mass exodus of Jews from Arab countries




posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Just for your information, I watched part of the video in your last post. The professor is Matthias Küntzel, political science teacher at Hamburg Univ..

I will compliment your effort to search out more credible sources.

Let me say however, that the video may be using the professor's opinion out of context.

His theme is based on some correlations he's made concerning what he refers to as a shared ideology of totalitarianism between the former Nazi - Socialist Party and radical Islam. For this part of the his supposition, yes I would definitely agree. My first question is, how serious is the actual threat when the radical Islamist is neither organized or well equipped with the military apparatus and funding to be of any concern. Also, I am sure that there numbers are a few thousand. Perhaps 20,000 to 50,000, according to average estimates. So, where's this war on terrorism?

He also claims neutrality under the premise of being non-religious and the fact that he has criticized Israel for 'some' of its policies.

What (in my opinion) may give doubt to his sincerity, is the fact that he receives allot of media attention from some Jewish media sources which are constantly searching for ways to obfuscate exacerbating Israeli politics in the matter.

I would assume that his interviews are paid for and that his written work is distributed with the assistance of certain publishers.

His qualifications are certainly noteworthy, it is just a question of ethics when analyzing his world view on Islamism. Especially if his work is not balanced with the historical considerations of ethnic society in per-statehood Israel.

This of course leaves any discerning researcher in a bind to determine when a professor of political science has gone from teaching a course to advocating a political agenda for his benefit.




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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by redneck13
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Amazing how megalomaniacal ideologies such as Islam and Nazism always hate Jews.Why is that?
If I were Jewish I would join one of those Zionist groups you keep talking about.


www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...(gen).html





Thanks for the references, but compiling a long list of conflict and persecutions between Jews, Christians and Muslims in the past millennium doesn't shed light on recent history and how Israel and the US has given support to the growth of modern radicalism. As mentioned in one of my last two posts, Jews are also intolerant to imagine diversity and equality in an Israel that is only for real Jews.

Again, this particular reference sites allegations against only the Muslims without recourse to other historic references on Christianity and Judaism.

By continually posting only anti-Islamic material, you are simply mimicking the propaganda of racial supremacists. I would say you are a Zionist by definition. Nothing unique.

And I don't see anyone defending your statements.


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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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I would also like to include additional information for the experts that are watching


www.thereligionofpeace.com...



Weekly Jihad Report
Jun . 16 - Jun. 22 Jihad Attacks: 39

Allahu Akbars*: 6

Dead Bodies: 306

Critically Injured: 778

*Suicide Attacks




Monthly Jihad Report
May, 2012 Jihad Attacks: 185

Countries: 19

Religions: 5

Dead Bodies: 935

Critically Injured: 2235



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