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Did Republicans deliberately crash the US economy?

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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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It was more like the career politicians that are owned by the corporations, conglomerates, and special interests that destroyed the real economy because they wanted NAFTA. The politicians main goal nowadays is to bring money, with the control of policies to their contstituants and their parties they can before they lose control of the House and Senate or White House. But both parties are controlled by the rich and the corporations that run the country. The second economy that these rich people belong to is wall streets economy and the DOW and NASDAQ. None of the politicians really represent the average person in the real economy. How many of you have paid for a $30,000 dollar plate dinner? Politics the origins of reality t.v.
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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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So now the Tea Party is responsible....wow you give the Tea Party so much credit.


Sure I do...they represent the current voice of the far-right who have hijacked the rational GOP, or as the TP likes to call anyone thats not willing to crash the economy...RINOs.


How about looking at people with real power to crash economies instead of the grannies and flag wavers of the Tea Party

This message is for purple chicken too


There are many traders who successfully used fundamental analysis to obtain great wealth, but the exploits of George Soros, and his Quantum Hedge Fund have made them household names in our era, particularly after the notorious Black Wednesday on which Britain was forced to drop out of the European exchange rate mechanism. In the rest of this article we will examine this interesting event to drive home the great power of fundamental analysis and how accurate and profitable its predictions can be.



Mr. Soros, who enters the scene at about this point, had established his Quantum Fund in the early 1970s in partnership with the equally famous Jim Rogers, his initial capital being provided by a number of wealthy acquaintances including the aforementioned Rotschild family. Before his rise to notoriety through his role in the British debacle, he had already made massive profits in trading the collapse of currency pegs and economic deregulation of the 70s.


www.forextraders.com...

I guess I am not really all that surprised that some here would overlook the real factors and blame the Tea Partiers.
It is a joke watching the Prez walk around and blame 3 years of economic debacle continuing on the GOP, instead of his own inept ways.
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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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I think it boils down to people hating others who are not like them.


This has nothing to do with anything in terms of the economy. Go ahead, just ignore the real economic factors and pretend it's all because some people don't like Obama. Just forget all that stuff about unemployment numbers. While you are at forgetting all those things, please forget all about the numbers now coming out about higher health care costs as a result of Obamacare.

I know Fox news is like a stake through the heart for some here, but here is a quick report on that

www.foxnews.com...
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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus


A lot of things seem that way to you. I have already posted a whole paragraph somewhere on what Michael Savage wrote in his book somewhere in this website. Soros has a reputation for crashing entire currencies, including Britain. Do you even doubt the power Soros has? Soros has called for a One World Currency.
Here's more of what the Socialist plan is


And you are calling that PROOF that he caused the crash of the economy????
You will have to be much more specific then an opinion of an imagination you have.
You are doing nothing but political shilling instead of contributing to the discussion... as well as being very insulting and childish.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

How about looking at people with real power to crash economies instead of the grannies and flag wavers of the Tea Party

This message is for purple chicken too


We are, it's called the GOP and they are responsible for the crash as has been shown over and over ranging from the massive tax cuts for the rich as issued by bush, the war in Iraq as well as the facetious "War on Terror" and the spending as well as the countless lives that have gone into them, the refusal of the GOP to work to pass a budget of any kind, the continued calls by the leaders of the GOP to make sure Obama fails regardless of the consequences. The list goes on and on and is substantiated by actual events instead of just someone's opinion like you prefer to offer.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

How about looking at people with real power to crash economies instead of the grannies and flag wavers of the Tea Party

This message is for purple chicken too


We are, it's called the GOP and they are responsible for the crash as has been shown over and over ranging from the massive tax cuts for the rich as issued by bush, the war in Iraq as well as the facetious "War on Terror" and the spending as well as the countless lives that have gone into them, the refusal of the GOP to work to pass a budget of any kind, the continued calls by the leaders of the GOP to make sure Obama fails regardless of the consequences. The list goes on and on and is substantiated by actual events instead of just someone's opinion like you prefer to offer.


Can you show some figures for this ?

Especially the "cost" of tax cuts vs. loss to the entire economy.

And the whole list.

You could be on to something.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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Please...Soros isn't even supporting Obama this time around and Romney has a record number of Hedge Fund Billionaires that profited from the collapse that are amongst his top 15 Billion dollar contributors...

Right-Wing Billionaires Behind Mitt Romney
They're trying to buy a presidency - and they expect a big payoff on their investment


Read more: www.rollingstone.com...

Romney Donor List That Now Includes 32 Billionaires
www.forbes.com...

Hedge fund king Louis Bacon
Citadel hedge fund chief Ken Griffin
Greenwich-based hedge funder Paul Tudor-Jones
New York investor Thomas Kaplan

Billionaire Hedge Fund Manager Backs Romney, Says Rich Need More Power
www.nationalconfidential.com...

Romney Super PAC Backed by Hedge Fund Billionaires
fightforbetterus.blogspot.com...

If the guys who became billionaires by collapsing our economy are behind Romney...what does that tell you about our future economy under Romney? Happy days ahead for those that profited from our economic crisis



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus


A lot of things seem that way to you. I have already posted a whole paragraph somewhere on what Michael Savage wrote in his book somewhere in this website. Soros has a reputation for crashing entire currencies, including Britain. Do you even doubt the power Soros has? Soros has called for a One World Currency.
Here's more of what the Socialist plan is


And you are calling that PROOF that he caused the crash of the economy????
You will have to be much more specific then an opinion of an imagination you have.
You are doing nothing but political shilling instead of contributing to the discussion... as well as being very insulting and childish.


And what "proof" have you got that the GOP crashed the econ????? hmmm? Speak for yourself on the childish insults. Calling me a shill is about the most childish thing I've seen in this thread. You just don't like what I have to say. You simply cannot accept that we have a President who hates America, and billionaire standing behind him who hates America even more.
Do you think I just made up all that stuff about Soros? Why do you think I posted even a typical news article pinning Soros to market manipulation? Why do you think I have talked about the Federal Reserve? You know "End the Fed" and all that...because I agree with Ron Paul that the Fed has more to do with this than any other single factor. The govt borrows from the Fed for whatever foul thing they want, and the American people pay. We are in so much debt because of this continued borrowing, and the printing of money adds to inflation and the rising cost of living.
But never mind all that. It must be all those new GOP guys who aren't going along with the program...

And speaking of political shilling, just look at the headline of this thread and tell me that with a straight face....

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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Please...Soros isn't even supporting Obama this time around


Source please. Has he already MovedOn? If Obama has used up his usefulness it wouldn't surprise me, but that changes nothing of Soros' support of Obama in the election, and his support of Obama's pet projects. How about Soro's support of OWS indiectly through donations to the organizers? Soros has quite a lengthy list of radical left organizations he donates to. You can find that list on FrontPageMag if you care to look.

Here's a quot from one of your links, and I would like to know how that supports your claim that Soros is not supporting Obma and also how that supports any claim that the GOP crashed the econ


Adelson is just the latest billionaire to jump on the Mitt Romney bandwagon. With his gift, the tally of America’s richest people donating to Mitt Romney-backing super PAC Restore Our Future is 32 — or, 8% of the Forbes 400.

www.nationalconfidential.com...


So, please, again, how does that mean the GOP crashed the econ and how does that prove that Soros is not still backing Obama?
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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

And what "proof" have you got that the GOP crashed the econ????? hmmm?
look above as well as throughout the thread.



Speak for yourself on the childish insults. Calling me a shill is about the most childish thing I've seen in this thread. You just don't like what I have to say. You simply cannot accept that we have a President who hates America, and billionaire standing behind him who hates America even more.
telling the truth isn't childish


Do you think I just made up all that stuff about Soros?

yes


Why do you think I posted even a typical news article pinning Soros to market manipulation? Why do you think I have talked about the Federal Reserve? You know "End the Fed" and all that...because I agree with Ron Paul that the Fed has more to do with this than any other single factor. The govt borrows from the Fed for whatever foul thing they want, and the American people pay. We are in so much debt because of this continued borrowing, and the printing of money adds to inflation and the rising cost of living.

Political shilling



But never mind all that. It must be all those new GOP guys who aren't going along with the program...

And speaking of political shilling, just look at the headline of this thread and tell me that with a straight face....

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The title of the thread is asking a question and that question has been answered: yes, yes they did.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Please...Soros isn't even supporting Obama this time around


Source please..


He listed a LOT of sources just below where you cut his post off to make this comment.....



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
How about Soro's support of OWS indiectly through donations to the organizers? .


That's some weapons grade derp right thur.

The connection you are making is nonsense. Soros pays money into a fund, that pasy money into a fund, that at one time gave a small amount of money to adbusters, who designed the logo, which sparked the initial wall street protests. To claim that means he 'funded OWS' is just stupid.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Just tit for tat. When Soros was exposed as the generous donor to MoveOn and the DNC in general, the left decided to pin the same thing on the Tea Party and they are still whining about the Koch bros. Now you are trying to convince me that there are some wealthy people backing Romney so therefore it must be true that the GOP crashed the econ? You are completely ignoring the very reputation Soros has. You do know that he was convicted of insider trading in France?
see here
www.bloomberg.com...

and here

topics.nytimes.com...#


George Soros is the famed investor who broke the Bank of England and came to represent the swashbuckling style of hedge fund managers and their entry into the world of global affairs. Mr. Soros, one of the world’s richest men, has plunged deeply into the worlds of politics, philanthropy and economic prophecy.


Mr. Soros was convicted of insider trading in 2002 by a French appeals court and fined 2.2 million euros — the equivalent of what he was accused of making — after a Paris court found that he had bought and sold shares of Société Générale in 1988 with the knowledge that the bank might be a takeover target.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
How about Soro's support of OWS indiectly through donations to the organizers? .


That's some weapons grade derp right thur.

The connection you are making is nonsense. Soros pays money into a fund, that pasy money into a fund, that at one time gave a small amount of money to adbusters, who designed the logo, which sparked the initial wall street protests. To claim that means he 'funded OWS' is just stupid.


I love how you neatly rearranged my wording even after quoting me. Lol too funny



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
How about Soro's support of OWS indiectly through donations to the organizers? .


That's some weapons grade derp right thur.

The connection you are making is nonsense. Soros pays money into a fund, that pasy money into a fund, that at one time gave a small amount of money to adbusters, who designed the logo, which sparked the initial wall street protests. To claim that means he 'funded OWS' is just stupid.


I love how you neatly rearranged my wording even after quoting me. Lol too funny


Oh really?

Here's a screenshot of your post, which I quoted word for word, in order, you liar.




posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Purple, I have observed your posting style since you started here. It does remind me of another poster who is no longer posting in this forum(at least under their previous name).
Calling me a shill is not an adequate method of debate in my personal opinion. Neither is quoting and then adding a couple one liners to it.

Could you please try again with some more substance?



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
How about Soro's support of OWS indiectly through donations to the organizers? .


That's some weapons grade derp right thur.

The connection you are making is nonsense. Soros pays money into a fund, that pasy money into a fund, that at one time gave a small amount of money to adbusters, who designed the logo, which sparked the initial wall street protests. To claim that means he 'funded OWS' is just stupid.


I love how you neatly rearranged my wording even after quoting me. Lol too funny


Oh really?

Here's a screenshot of your post, which I quoted word for word, in order, you liar.



Excuse me, what? I said "INDIRECTLY" and it's in the post which YOU took a SCREENSHOT of. Calling me a liar is completely useless here.

When you look at all the various organizations Soros has donated generously to, plus his abject hatred of Bush and his desire to get Bush out in 04, how can you even say this stuff with a straight face?

How is the connection nonsense? I am not the only person to have made this charge.
I will just be more direct now

gulagbound.com...

Just try reading


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posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Purple, I have observed your posting style since you started here. It does remind me of another poster who is no longer posting in this forum(at least under their previous name).
Calling me a shill is not an adequate method of debate in my personal opinion. Neither is quoting and then adding a couple one liners to it.

Could you please try again with some more substance?


In other words, you don't have any proof so you want to change the subject and accuse me falsely in order to get off the topic of you offering proof for the opinionated lies you are spewing.... got it



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
How about Soro's support of OWS indiectly through donations to the organizers? .


That's some weapons grade derp right thur.

The connection you are making is nonsense. Soros pays money into a fund, that pasy money into a fund, that at one time gave a small amount of money to adbusters, who designed the logo, which sparked the initial wall street protests. To claim that means he 'funded OWS' is just stupid.


I love how you neatly rearranged my wording even after quoting me. Lol too funny


Oh really?

Here's a screenshot of your post, which I quoted word for word, in order, you liar.



she's more interested in changing the topic when cornered and causing as much drama as possible than she is in answering questions and having a discussion...
sometimes it's easier to just let them ramble and correct things where they need to be corrected



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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You sad i "rearranged your wording"

I posted a screenshot of your wording, which i quoted exactly.

Therefore, you are a liar, proven so.




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