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posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 11:05 PM
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reply to post by BobAthome
 


Erm...ya I know what year it is.

Its all about kill ratio.

Russia and China has many slaves and not soldiers.
America has many soldiers and not slaves.

I say 20 to 1 kill ratio at the minimum.




posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 11:12 PM
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What that is about is a sub-contractor not doing it's job and a close Family Member is a Former F-15 Pilot and was fortunate to escort a High Ranking Soviet Official. He has said that there will always be ticks in a complex system but we at least FIX THE TICKS!

There are Russian...at one time a real dog of a troop carrier made by the Soviets had the Lobbyists in Washington...FREEKING OUT....over a a virtual DEATH TRAP!

The BMP-1 had significant shortcomings in its protection scheme, which only became obvious during the Soviet War in Afghanistan. It seats its driver and commander in a tandem layout, on the left hand side of the front of the hull alongside the diesel engine. When an antitank mine hits the BMP-1's left track, the explosion usually destroyed one to three left hand side roadwheels, penetrated the bottom and killed or seriously wounded the driver and the commander which caused painful losses of specialist personnel in the Soviet Army. Drivers laid sandbags on the bottom of their compartment in an effort to protect themselves against possible mine attack. The same kind of explosion under the right track were much less dramatic for the driver and the commander who remained relatively safe.[35] If the vehicle hit a tilt-rod antitank mine, its steeply sloped lower front glacis plate allowed the mine's arming rod to tilt with little resistance until the mine was well under the chassis. When it eventually detonated, the blast was usually sufficient to kill or badly wound the driver and the commander. The Soviet 40th Army in Afghanistan began to receive improved BMP-1Ds (the so-called "Afghan" variant) from 1982 onward which, among other improvements, included an additional armored plate under the driver's and commander's stations. This situation was addressed in the later BMP-2 design, where the commander shares the two-man turret with the gunner. The driver's and engine compartments could be equipped with additional bottom armor for improved protection against landmines filled with up to 2.5 kilograms (5.5 lb) of explosives.

They never made much attempt to correct their issues...the U.S. Military Does. Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by mkgandhas
reply to post by DoctorMobius
 


from what I read in the documents of bill cooper former naval intelligence ,USA,most of the american black weaponry is under british control,not american.Hell,britain's astrological chart is one of a kind,in ways comparable to Rome and the Mongol Empire.Rather an Hybrid.

I don't know where that ridiculous statement came from but I KNOW AS A FACT...that the U.K. is doing everything it can including Kissing our Ass to be apart of the FEL System. Their standard argument is that we allowed them to work in Co-operation with the U.S. Military specifically the USN as well as ELECTRIC BOAT when they needed help building a BOOMER SUBMARINE that had the capability of using the TRIDENT II D-5 MIRVED Nuclear Sub Launched Missiles...actually...they first had the TRIDENT I SYSTEM installed on their VANGUARD CLASS BOOMERS....which in all actuality were a construct designed by Electric Boat and in conjunction with LOCKHEED the company that designed and makes the Trident System.

But when one talks about giving away the FEL or FREE ELECTRON LASER...a Nuclear Powered Laser that will be installed aboard every U.S. Carrier along with a THIRD Nuclear Reactor to power the Laser as well as there already existing two Nuclear Powered Land Based FEL's as well as an UNKNOWN number at sea as well as all AEGIS CRUISERS also being installed with a Nuclear Powered FEL...and this is happening now....this is a DIRECT ENERGY WEAPON SYSTEM THAT WILL MAKE NUCLEAR WEAPONS OBSOLETE!

Naturally the U.K. WANT'S IN BAD! They are a GOOD ALLY but something of this power being handed over to anyone...I think the answer will be NO!

The Russians as well as the Chinese are aware of the FEL and the WORLD was made aware a while back when a Target and Acquisition test was performed on a small boat using a Non-Nuclear Version of the FEL.. Notice how the Taiwan Issue has not been brought up? Notice how China has helped with the North Korean Problem.

Notice how PUTIN quickly made a deal with the U.S. that if a Iranian/U.S. WAR breakes out...as ong as the U.S. Military protects the Iranian Natural Gas Pipeline than connects with a Russian one which Russia make alot of Money on selling Gas and collecting Pipeline Use Fees from many Countries...that Russia will not go to Irans Aid?

Same deal with China except we protect their OIL shipments....thus China stands away from Iran.

Why all these sudden changes of Heart? Because the U.S. Military is only a year or so from completing the ULTIMATE WEAPONS SYSTEM....and they KNOW IT! Split Infinity



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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Russian special forces are already in country, and have been for some months. It is one reason why we have not seen action like in Libya.



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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US vs ANY country is like MJ (Michael Jordan) playing a 7 year old one on one.... It just isnt fair...... But I will say this much, I am Shocked, absolutely shocked, to see another WWIII thread
...... I'm starting to believe that there are some people here on ATS that want this war to begin, because its the ONLY thing you talk about... I feel that every WWIII thread should be thrown out until someone shows some actual proof that shows a war is imminent.... Seriously, every week we have atleast 1-2 WWIII threads on the front page of ATS...



posted on Jun, 8 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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Britian gave FRANCE Fleet Authority.

was costing too much..
ya i know Christmas Party,,.. ok,,



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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to be frank Britain had been a patent and major technological innovator.Britain does not need to kiss america's ,as it has breakthrough innovations like Starlite plastic to counter any FEL.Russia has 12 symmetry Carbon and 8 symmetry carbon(graphene also known as C8 in russian papers ,1988) which can counter nuclear blasts like Starlite . Britain has been controlling your nation via the federal reserve through its wazir Rothschild. Russians have their own plasma defence systems.And if Britain liked it can subvert and destroy nearly any nation as will .But Britain greatest weapon is mystical in nature,Enochian system of extradimensional communication and influencing that enabled it to destroy Spain as a superpower and conquer the world.

The three most powerful astrological charts for coming future I saw in terms of mundane:

1)britain
2)Russia
3)israel

USA's astrological chart seems to indicate its coming end by 2013-15. I won't be surprised if Israel conquers Saudi Arabia,Iraq,Syria,and most of the middle east.

Russia will continue being a major world power and will dominate central asia ,europe again.

Britain is also near its end in terms of mundane astrology,but I expect its rebirth like a phoenix.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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I can see that much of your technical data is wrong. he Russians tried for years to develop a Particle Beam Weapon but everything they came up with had a nasty habit of irradiating the personnel who were using it. They also tried to develop an FEL but could not make the Jump from a Non-Nuclear Powered Version to a Nuclear Powered Version plus they are still WAY FAR BEHIND in Super Computing Target and Acquisition.

As far as the U.K. of who's people I like very much and have visited there several times....I still don't see where you are getting you source of information from as even though the U.K. has advanced tech...it is no where of the Caliber of what the U.S. actively displays never mind what the U.S. has as far as Ultra-Secret Weapon Systems.

You can google the on going debate over whether or not the U.S. will release FEL Tech. to the U.K....and as far as the materials you have described that you believe could defend against an FEL Strike....Boy...are you wrong.

The FEL will also have a Satellite System for over the Horizon Strikes and an ordinary Mirror will not work as a Nuclear Powered FEL Beam at FULL STRENGTH would vaporize the Mirror. The Free Electron Laser works more like a Particle Beam and is near impossible to deflect unless you know what you are doing.

The U.S. has some weapon systems that are either in development stage or are not to be used unless a Total State of WAR existed that make the FEL look like a TOY. Hope and Pray they are never used. Split Infinity


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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 12:56 AM
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says the person who quotes discover magazine.Like it or not London is indeed ruler of the western world.Your nation is subservient to Britain via Federal Reserve which in turn is a private bank ruled by Rothschild.

and you sound like a computer bot.
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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 01:37 AM
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Ah yes, war huh! ya! what it is a good for? Absolutely everything.
And some people just love the smell of napalm in the morning.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 01:41 AM
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Ah...the FED! Do you know what makes the World Economy Prosperous or Not? Small BUSINESS AMERICA!

OVER 80% of ALL JOBS IN THE UNITED STATES...are SMALL BUSINESS JOBS! I believe the exact figure is 83.4%...which means that Big Business as well as U.S. State and Federal Jobs make up only 16.6% of the U.S. Work Force.

My Family started with a Small Business which grew over time into several Large Companies which I help run despite my 2 other Jobs. The Economy is cyclical and the shear size of the U.S. Economy....remember...the U.S. Military spends over 1.3 Trillion a Year but yet comprises just 17.6% of the U.S. GNP.....which means that the U.S. Economy has a LIFE of its OWN!

You made the VERY FUNNY statement that the U.K. controls the United States and it's Economy when even the U.S. Government can't do this! Every Major Economic Turnaround has been created by the release or development of some new TECH. from the U.S. Business Community or Individual or Military. Right now I have heard whispers of the possible release of Super-High Tech. U.S. Military developed Green-Energy Production Tech.

There are plans right now to build two Massive Solar Arrays...one in Nevada and one in Arizona that will be 50 Miles by 50 Miles. Supposedly an Environmental Group has filed an injunction in Federal Court that warns of the Damage that will be done to Plant and Animal life in these Bad Lands. This seems very suspicious and other Green Groups are investigating into where this group came from.

Anyways...the U.K. has very little control over the United States. If you actually believe that it does...you probably still refer to the U.S. as THE COLONIES! LOL! Split Infinity p.s....Cornwallis was a Little Bitch when he was not MAN ENOUGH to SURRENDER HIS SWORD AFTER HIS LOSS!



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 01:53 AM
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Hang On!!!

I was only watching the news recently AND IT IS THE AMERICAN AND EUROPEANS who are asking the Russians to put some Heat on the Syrian leaders to try to return some stability.

The Russians are'nt going in there to fight Americans, they are acting because the US and Europe asked why they are'nt more involved.

I hope the Russians do go in there and act as a "Policeman", Im quite sure the Americans and its allies are sick and tired, not to mention too broke, to fight any more wars in despot countrys.

Let the Russians stand up for civil rights and peace....It may "test their mettle".

Even let the Chinese get involved, they are telling us they are peace loving, and respect human rights..

Maybe the North Koreans will get the picture then too.

The West can stand back for a change and see what happens, instead of the USA being idiots and bombing everyone.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 02:06 AM
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www.huffingtonpost.com...

Here is one of many links on the topic....dont you people keep track of the latest news?

Let the Russians in, ......

Maybe the start of a new "Glasnost".

Actually, I would LOVE to get the Americans, Russians, Europeans, Chinese, Japanese, Indians and others, to set up a "Earth Universal Space agency" and build some REAL spaceships, and go to the Moon, Mars and beyond. With their combined technology, something big could be created.

Stick it up the "Black Projects", Secret squirel, Govt/Industrial complexes.

One can only dream.





posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by 1BornPatriot


As expected Russia makes it obvious they mean what they say. Lets hope someone in Washington DC gives a damn about American Lives - cuz, if we tangle with Russians we are at a sever dis advantage - Russians have an education and they have their hormones intact. the only thing we got going for us is what ? a government no one trusts anymore... were screwed if this thing gets going.... so our only hope is to stop it before it does

stratrisks.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Don;t forget cirrhosis of the liver enmasse and krokidil running thru their veins hardcore.
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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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The ignorance in this thread is THICK. I'm an American but I am not one of the other 300 million sheep that populate the country. I understand common sense and reality. Two things lacking in about 80-85% of Americans. Let's put out the facts, just o it's on record for our next (big stupid war) WW3:

1. The US has NOT won a war since WW2
2. US soldiers have been through 5-9 tours while Russian, Chinese and Iranian troops are well rested.
3: F-22's are currently grounded due to asphyxiating their pilots otherwise known as hypoxia.
4. F-35's when flying through a rain storm their electronics malfunction
5. J-20 and Russia's Sukhoi Su-34 have no such documented problem.
6. Syria is Russia's only naval resupply location other than her native country.
7. Iran, China and Russia are equipped with Russia's Sunburn missiles which the US and British Navy's can't detect which will take down any and all aircraft carrier they are deployed to.
8. American, British, French and Israeli soldiers are not trained to win a war. They are trained to sustain a military occupation.
10. Iran was outnumbered outgunned and was fighting against Chinese, Russian and American armed Iraqi's....and prevailed.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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American exceptionalism cannot stop an ICBM from Russia or from China (whom was sold the technology from the parasite that occupies Palestine).



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by murch
LOL Go America.

Can I just point out that you are currently losing a war against one of the poorest nations in the world that are armed mainly with small arms, rocket launchers and explosives.

I wouldn't be shouting about your military might to much.

Hardware means nothing. Its the willingness to die for cause that wins a war.
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What war are we losing again?
The one on terrorist that hide among civilians? Is that the one you speak of?
Also seems to me we are getting the leaders so how are we losing again?

You also might notice we are not at war with the country but the terrorist that hide among civilians there.
Unless you speak of Iraq. Their military was no match for that war and folded like a card house in a wind storm.
So again what war are we losing?



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Connman

Originally posted by murch
LOL Go America.

Can I just point out that you are currently losing a war against one of the poorest nations in the world that are armed mainly with small arms, rocket launchers and explosives.

I wouldn't be shouting about your military might to much.

Hardware means nothing. Its the willingness to die for cause that wins a war.
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What war are we losing again?
The one on terrorist that hide among civilians? Is that the one you speak of?
Also seems to me we are getting the leaders so how are we losing again?

You also might notice we are not at war with the country but the terrorist that hide among civilians there.
Unless you speak of Iraq. Their military was no match for that war and folded like a card house in a wind storm.
So again what war are we losing?

The one where you stay in a country where insurgency still runs rife today. an you know see through the rebuilding of that nations military under saddam there was none (virtually) suicide or bomb attacks but nope, america had to go in there under what pretense again? OH YEAH the WMD card almost a DECADE later and nothing was found other than lot's of oil and plenty of "reconstruction" contracts.

The meaning of the word "VICTORY" is to be victorious not to claim "Mission Accomplished" from a carrier then 5 years later retreat because it's the popular opinion of the people.the "war" you won was a battle in hindsight as if any third world country (including syria) could put up a fight with america they have to resort to cowardly tactics suicide bombings child bombers attacking churches and the like.

America has revealed to the world that it can't take on 1st world countries because "that would be to hard" but bravo, BRAVO America you managed to piss off countries that have powerful contacts and now the rest of europe has to deal with this # as well I hope you're happy.



posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by mkgandhas
 

Ah...the FED! Do you know what makes the World Economy Prosperous or Not? Small BUSINESS AMERICA!

OVER 80% of ALL JOBS IN THE UNITED STATES...are SMALL BUSINESS JOBS! I believe the exact figure is 83.4%...which means that Big Business as well as U.S. State and Federal Jobs make up only 16.6% of the U.S. Work Force.

My Family started with a Small Business which grew over time into several Large Companies which I help run despite my 2 other Jobs. The Economy is cyclical and the shear size of the U.S. Economy....remember...the U.S. Military spends over 1.3 Trillion a Year but yet comprises just 17.6% of the U.S. GNP.....which means that the U.S. Economy has a LIFE of its OWN!

You made the VERY FUNNY statement that the U.K. controls the United States and it's Economy when even the U.S. Government can't do this! Every Major Economic Turnaround has been created by the release or development of some new TECH. from the U.S. Business Community or Individual or Military. Right now I have heard whispers of the possible release of Super-High Tech. U.S. Military developed Green-Energy Production Tech.

There are plans right now to build two Massive Solar Arrays...one in Nevada and one in Arizona that will be 50 Miles by 50 Miles. Supposedly an Environmental Group has filed an injunction in Federal Court that warns of the Damage that will be done to Plant and Animal life in these Bad Lands. This seems very suspicious and other Green Groups are investigating into where this group came from.

Anyways...the U.K. has very little control over the United States. If you actually believe that it does...you probably still refer to the U.S. as THE COLONIES! LOL! Split Infinity p.s....Cornwallis was a Little Bitch when he was not MAN ENOUGH to SURRENDER HIS SWORD AFTER HIS LOSS!


Ah the rags to riches to arrogance story....the protagonist seems a little angsty but the premise is good, one country claiming to invent everything under the sun, I bet you still believe in god and that the internet wasn't developed at the C.E.R,N. predecessor in Europe. No one cares about your "SOLAR ARRAYZ" they don't work even as well as coal power plants when it's cloudy.

Oh yeah and you only got an advantage (slight) in tech because your country invented the microchip but hey britain can at least keep countries on our side thanks to america no one hates us they all hate " the jews" or "amerifats" keep on trucking america you make us look good




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posted on Jun, 9 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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In your Orwellian speak, "winning" is 10 years of war in Afghanistan, 9 years in Iraq, record suicide rates in the military, over 70,000 dead troops in war related injuries and deaths, an economy in shambles, a government 9% of the population trust and an entire government working in the interest of that parasite nation that occupies Palestine. According to you, that's winning...???!!!!

Wow you're officially a paid troll or moron with no brain.





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