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Originally posted by Carseller4
I always get a good chuckle out of voter-suppression stories.
If you're stupid enough to fall for stuff like this maybe it's best you didn't vote in the first place.
Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by Annee
So you heard something on the radio that's "apparently" a problem and you're asked the very questions you ask but you have nothing to prove there is a problem in the first place.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
I think we are beyond the point that we should worry about someone born and lives in some backwaters place where they have zero proof of anything.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by Annee
So you heard something on the radio that's "apparently" a problem and you're asked the very questions you ask but you have nothing to prove there is a problem in the first place.
I'm not going to play "Twist n Shout" with you.
You know - - you can't answer the question - - so you turn it back on the original poster who asked you the question.
Originally posted by sweetliberty
Annee, I'm simply asking you about a subject you seemed concern about but you also seem to be using it as a. crutch to demonize people instead of doing any research or making a couple of simple phone calls and asking the local or state officials how they handle 90 year old people who don't have a birthcertificate or SS #.
What are you proposing?
Originally posted by xuenchen
Well Well.
Let's think hear for a minute.
I know.
Why doesn't Acorn and other groups simply assist these disenfranchised people ????
Or have they been ????
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by sweetliberty
Annee, I'm simply asking you about a subject you seemed concern about but you also seem to be using it as a. crutch to demonize people instead of doing any research or making a couple of simple phone calls and asking the local or state officials how they handle 90 year old people who don't have a birthcertificate or SS #.
What are you proposing?
I listened to the talk show discussion. You didn't.
I asked you a question from the show.
All you want to do is play "Twist n Shout" - - - and avoid answering the question.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by xuenchen
Well Well.
Let's think hear for a minute.
I know.
Why doesn't Acorn and other groups simply assist these disenfranchised people ????
Or have they been ????
Apparently not this 90 year old woman.
Originally posted by sweetliberty
WOW!
OK Annee, I'll answer you again. I said I would make some phone calls to my local and/or state officials. That I would have taken care of the problem a long time ago.
The situtation you brought up isn't a crisis, it can be dealt with. I'm quite sure its been dealt with more than once already.
So if I understand you correctly, you would prefer no ID requirement whatsoever over ID requirement because there are elderly people living in the hills of a state who don't have a birth certificate?
Did it ever occure to you that they would have already taken care of the bc if they wanted to? Maybe they would prefer people like you to mind your own business and leave them alone. Maybe they choose to live under the grid?
Originally posted by The Sword
You pay taxes.
Your name is on the rolls.
Why should you have to show an ID?
Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by Annee
"Dealt with" means I would or the person in question or whomever, would seek advice from local ans or state officials as to the steps needed to be taken in order to fulfill whatever requirments were asked.
Now please answer my questions.
As per what you stated earlier, ...Do you feel there should be no ID requirement to vote, if there are elderly people living in the back woods of a state, who have no birth certificate?
OR
Do you think ID should be a requirement when voting?
Originally posted by The Sword[/i ]
Even so, don't you think it's stupid for the Governor to go after the unions when he should be thinking about creating jobs, balancing costs and you know, actually doing something for the people of his state?
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by Xtrozero
I think we are beyond the point that we should worry about someone born and lives in some backwaters place where they have zero proof of anything.
So - you agree with disenfranchising a citizen of their constitutional right?
Not their fault when and where they were born.
Originally posted by sweetliberty
From one Non Republican to another, I say you fabricated this story!
Thelma Mitchell
Thelma is a 93-year-old woman who cleaned the Tennessee Capitol for 30 years. She never received a birth certificate, however, because she was delivered by a midwife in Alabama in 1918 and there was no record of her birth. When she attempted to obtain a voter ID, she was turned away for lack of a birth certificate by a clerk who suggested she could be an illegal immigrant.
Virginia Lasater
Virginia is a 91-year-old woman who has been active in political campaigns for 70 years Because of her advanced age, however, she is no longer able to stand for extended periods of time. When she attempted to obtain a voter ID, she was confronted with lines that stretched for several hours and no place to sit while she waited -- forcing her to abandon her effort to obtain an ID due to her physical constraints.
Darwin Spinks
Darwin is an 86 year-old World War II veteran. He was told to pay a fee before he could obtain a voter ID in Tennessee, despite the fact that charging someone to vote is unconstitutional.
Rita Platt
Rita is a Wisconsin resident who was turned away from her attempt to obtain a voter ID because she required either a birth certificate or a passport to obtain one -- both of which can only be obtained if the voter pays a fee. Worse, in Wisconsin, voters must fill out a misleading form that suggests that they cannot obtain the birth certificate they need to obtain a photo ID unless they already have a photo ID.
Jessica Cohen
Jessica is a Texas resident who lost her license and other identification papers in a burglary. She now must also pay an unconstitutional fee in order to obtain the birth certificate she needs to obtain a new voter ID. Because Cohen lives in Texas, she will likely be able to vote in 2012 because the Department of Justice blocked Texas’s law under the Voting Rights Act -- although there is a high risk that the Supreme Court’s conservatives will declare the Voting Rights Act unconstitutional.