4,000 years ago, climate change caused massive civilization collapse, page 1

4,000 years ago, climate change caused massive civilization collapse

Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia may be the best known of the first great urban cultures, but the largest was the Indus or Harappan civilization. This culture once extended over more than 386,000 square miles (1 million square kilometers) across the plains of the Indus River from the Arabian Sea to the Ganges, and at its peak may have accounted for 10 percent of the world population. The civilization developed about 5,200 years ago, and slowly disintegrated between 3,900 and 3,000 years ago — populations largely abandoned cities, migrating toward the east.

"Antiquity knew about Egypt and Mesopotamia, but the Indus civilization, which was bigger than these two, was completely forgotten until the 1920s,"...

As many of you know, I've done a few threads on Ancient and Lost Civilizations. I'm currently putting the finishing touches on another thread on this topic. So, While researching I just came across this article on the subject this morning during my usual surfing on the topic, I'm not thoroughly convinced of the date and age of their estimates on how far back the civilization/culture in the area goes {I feel it is much much older} but, I'm leaning towards accepting their date on when it finally fell apart...

Many feel {as do I} that the areas cultural beginnings happened offshore in a now submerged location just off the coast where when at around 9,000 or 10,000 BC the Coastlines were flooded out by the last of the ice age melt off. The people simply moved inland up the river valley where they began again.

Your thoughts?

reply to post by FissionSurplus

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They found "Slightly higher than average" radiation and a bunch of human skeletal remains lying huddled together face down in the streets and which showed no sign of scavenger mutilation/molestation of the bodies.

So, what does one deduce from that?

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by FissionSurplus

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They found "Slightly higher than average" radiation and a bunch of human skeletal remains lying huddled together face down in the streets and which showed no sign of scavenger mutilation/molestation of the bodies.

So, what does one deduce from that?

edit on 1-6-2012 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)

One would deduce that all of history is written by the victor, and has been manipulated to fit someones scheme?

reply to post by SLAYER69

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I can deduce nothing more than something bad happened quickly enough to cause people to have enough time to huddle together, but not enough time to run away. I'm not sure if there is a natural phenomenon that would cause higher radiation rates (such as, naturally occurring radon / radiation in the soil). Supposedly, the rocks there show signs of being exposed to extremely high heat, turning them glass-like. 'Tis a mystery!

Back on topic, I can't help but wonder if the fever that overtook the western world in the 1800s over all things Egyptian put archaeology on the wrong track, placing that area of the globe as the cradle of civilization. I tend to believe that Egypt and its achievements is due to knowledge from much older civilizations. One can easily imagine that people, due to their cities sinking, migrated to other places that were safer....And how far back does that go? Egyptian records of kings supposedly goes back some 30,000 years.

reply to post by FissionSurplus

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Oh,

I don't want to give it away but, I'm almost finished writing something along those lines. The whole ancient world holds a much deeper mystery than many can imagine. We, the modern world really need to start thinking outside the box. The signs are all around us.

Sorry for being so cryptic.....

reply to post by wildtimes

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I think the Egyptians were the only ones who held on to and continued {Albeit watered down and diluted through time} their ancient heritage/knowledge till recorded history.


That's all I'll say about that for now.

Between 5000 and 10,000 years ago Nevada went from a state with one of the largest lakes(8,610 square mile Lake Lahontan)in it to a desert.
en.wikipedia.org...:Wpdms_shdrlfi020l_lake_lahontan_b.jpg

the native Americans living there turned from a fishing culture to a desert culture.

reply to post by ANNED

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Very good.

That's exactly the type of info that should be collected and considered.

reply to post by FissionSurplus

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There are underwater constructions off Japan that are tentatively dated at 12 to 15,000 years from present. Google
Brian Noble 'The Third Explanation' and download. There you will find the very latest information concerning who we are and where we came from. Hominids/Hominin's are far far, older than the 200,00 years ascribed to us, and as a science journalist I can prove it!

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