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Originally posted by MamaJ
There is so much we are learning and have yet to learn, like dark matter for instance. Just watched a seminar on black holes and dark matter. It seems its possible for an object to be out there not emmiting light.... Especially if it were dark but we would feel the effects if said object made it into our neck of the woods.
Time will tell all though, this is the only thing I know for sure...
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE
The 188 day theory is complete bunk. Every time there is another major earthquake you have people like Terral claiming it fits the 188 day model even if the last time he claimed this was less than a month ago. There's also the fact that if these were somehow caused by "alignments" they wouldn't be occurring on a regular schedule as the object that would be causing them should be getting closer.
I would also like to ask how another object in the solar system is capable of causing sinkholes. I'm not looking for the usual cop out answers of gravity or magnetic field. I want the actual mechanics of how these forces cause sinkholes.
Finally, while we don't know everything there is to know about the universe that is not evidence of Planet X or Nibiru. To suggest otherwise is to commit the logical fallacy known as argument from ignorance.
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by Human_Alien
Uneducated morons heard that some scholar read something in ancient tablets of some ancient people...and it became their new kook theory.
Yes people seem to pull these types of conspiracies out of their butt...so is this real...ummm nope.
It is a good thing the world is not full of these types of people...imagine the chaos these idiots would be causing.... The rational, educated people who have degrees in this type of field are a little more believable than some blogger, youtuber or nutbar.
edit on 27-5-2012 by kerazeesicko because: I CAN
Originally posted by PluPerfect
reply to post by Human_Alien
It's a rather simple answer...."Nibiru" is fiction.
We, the lay-person, who don't have the equipment or knowledge of the cosmos to decipher between a nebulae from a rogue planet
Even a lay-person can do the research, and find the differences......and, with the financial wherewithal, buy their own personal telescope, and take some classes at Univ. or local College on Astronomy....or, read up about it at the local library, for free. Alternatively, short of buying one's own (admittedly not a cheap hobby) telescope, one could seek out a local-area astronomy club of amateur enthusiasts, who might be willing to lend their own personal knowledge and experience to a lay-person, when asked.
And, the definition of a 'nebula". Most who have even the most vague understanding of the Cosmos don't need to look up the definition (because there is no similarity to a nebula and a "rogue" planet), but here's the definition anyway, for anyone else (I presume the definition of "planet" is not necessary?):
Types of Nebulae
Originally, the word "nebula" referred to almost any extended astronomical object (other than planets and comets). The etymological root of "nebula" means "cloud".
And skipping in the "Intro":
More strictly speaking, the word "nebula" should be reserved for gas and dust clouds and not for groups of stars.
Therefore, it is rather obvious that the term "nebula" can never be applied to a planet, of any sort......whether fictional (like "Nibiru") or real......
- Brown dwarfs fuse deuterium, which heats them up and everything heated emits infra-red light -
- Small brown dwarfs may be cold enough to emit mostly infra-red light;
- A small, cool brown dwarf will be fainter in the visible spectrum and brighter in the infra-red spectrum.
- That doesn't mean that brown dwarfs are "invisible", though. A brown dwarf is at least the size of Jupiter or larger and will reflect light in the same way.
- If one was close to our Solar System (or in it, as some claim), it would look like Jupiter at the same distance due to reflected sunlight.
A brown dwarf inside the orbit of Jupiter would be as bright as or brighter than Jupiter in the night sky. (And Jupiter is one of the brightest objects in the night sky after the Moon, Venus and the International Space Station.)
RWiki
Originally posted by Argyll
reply to post by Human_Alien
Hey no problem mate!
So let me get this straight, you believe that a hitherto "undiscovered" planet is lurking on the fringes of our solar system, and will appear at some point this year.....yes?
One question Human_Alien......will you be posting circa January 2013........and admitting the error of your ways?.......or can we expect the goal posts to be moved?
Originally posted by Human_Alien
Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
Also, as I said before, watch how many debunkers these threads draw out - they claim to want to fight ignorance, which is a noble cause, but few use worthy arguments - and most of these debunkers ignore the multitude of other "way out there" threads.
Ya know what? I think they're scared. Scared of the implications and possible ramifications this might have to our history.
This 'idea' of a tenth planet is a given now. It's not a myth. It's not a conspiracy. It's not an alien wish-list item. It's real. What else needs to be done?
Now whether or not the YT dude found it, I don't know. That's what this thread is about. Not whether or not it exist. Well, I guess in part it is about that but could some of you TRY (force yourself) to nix the name calling.
Originally posted by Argyll
reply to post by Human_Alien
So why don't YOU tell ME when the next solar eclipse will be without looking it up! What?...you can't? Why not? Same difference!!! Doesn't mean it won't happen.
Okay....I can't without looking it up....there you go!
But it will happen and we both know that.
The reason I keep bringing the date up is because it is widely believed (by some people) that this "mysterious" planet is approaching us, and it is this story that has spawned the majority of the "2012 doomsday" fantasies.....and we both know that as well!
My question was aimed at another member though......and I'll wait for his/her reply
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Human_Alien
They wouldn't be conjecturing unless there was something to conjecture.
Wrong. Astronomers looking over data see something they wonder about and then come up with a hypothesis as to its cause. Sometimes that hypothesis includes a new larger mass in the solar system. In one case they thought e
We have all seen that despite the overwhelming evidence against Nibiru you continue to believe in it.
A tenth (ninth) planet is not a conspiracy so not sure why many take on a rejection-able attitude.
There have been a lot of 10th planet proposals. What we do know is that any new planet must be very far out there and never enter the orbits of the known planets. Sure it might exist. Then again it will be very far out there.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Havick007
Notice the statement that Tyche would be "too cold and faint" to be identified by a normal telescope...
So they are saying that they have identified an ultra cold brown dwarf in the same article as talking about Tyche... and stated it would be too cold and faint to be detected by a normal "visual telescope"
I think it comes down to attention to detail in reading between the lines...
Any object so far away is too dim to detect by reflected sunlight. Therefore, it must be detected by what it emits, not what it reflects. In the future sensors might be able to directly detect it through reflected sunlight, but not today.
If they are able to detect an out of solar system object that is as cold as the object detected, then it seems that a closer hotter object should be detected - and it hasn't. Thus a brown dwarf orbiting our Sun seems more and more remote.
Originally posted by stereologist
Look up the debate on Pluto. Learn why it has been reclassified.
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by Human_Alien
Uneducated morons heard that some scholar read something in ancient tablets of some ancient people...and it became their new kook theory.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by Char-Lee
Not only does astrophysics discount the possibility of Nibiru but we can also look at historical records. China has a continuous recorded history going back 4,000 years. If this planet returns every 3,600 years it should appear at least once in Chinese history. It doesn't. Now I'm not discounting the possibility of a possible companion star or another large planet in our solar system. What I'm discounting is Sitchin's Nibiru and Lieder's Planet X as they completely fly in the face of physics and history.