A Dictator Is The Solution.

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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Many people want to be told what to do. They cannot think for themselves and have no idea what to do. The stupider they are the easier it is to sell them the idea of a dictator.

As long as people refuse to evolve socially, there will be job openings for the dictator, the village chief, the domineering father figure who will take all responsibility out of the hands of the children. When the children accept this situation and are unable to generate alternatives to it, they accept the dictator and must accept the good and bad consequences of dictatorship.

The Germans had six years of positive developments before the war, and then six years of war and ultimate disaster, followed by roughly forty-years of military occupation and social and economic disruption. Their prospects are good now, they managed to put their economy back together without the dictatorship of an individual and are as good neighbors as they can be.

They were ultimately defeated by an alliance of non-dictatorships (oops, and one dictatorship
) and helped back on their feet by countries who rejected the sort of severe economic reprisals undertaken after WW1.

After the war the Jews, (who many believe control everything) did not have the Germans exterminated, as they certainly could have done if they did control everything and as Hitler would have done in their place.
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by AllIsOne
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Read the start of my OP. Hitler did many great things. He messed up when he went to War. I think he was right and I wish he had won but he was stupid. He was way ahead of himself. He was not great when he went to war because he failed. before that,he was great. But even though he failed,I still think he was right. He was fighting the Bankers. Who do we have the most trouble with? Bankers. Hitler was for the people.

I admire National socialism and after reading about Germany after WW1 I can see why Hitler tried to change things for the better. He did up until he failed to take the Russian red Devils. That was the end.

And I hate that people try to claim that he made people hate jews. It was popular opinion around the world at that time. He just tapped into it for propaganda.

He hated Communists and Bankers.

And like I said,nobody would take jews. have you read about the Voyage of the damned? America sent them back. Nobody would take jews.


Du hast eine grosse Schraube locker mein Sohn ... (translation: you are crazy as a loon!)


Did you know Hitler was nominated for a Nobel Peace prize by a Jew?

Did you know 150000 Jews fought for Hitler?

It seems you know little about Hitler and you never will.
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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The stigma surrounding the term "dictator" is similar to the stigma surrounding the word "communist." I sometimes wonder how Hitler would have been remembered and thought of had he not had a hatred of the Jews. I think it would have been quite different, although the winners write the history, therefore still would have made him out to be a horrible guy. He did indeed do great things in Germany, even before there was so much work for the people from building military hardware and supplies.

I was actually thinking pretty much this same thing today about a dictator. What I was actually thinking was that it would be better to have one crook in charge as opposed to hundreds of politicians, the majority of whom are out for their own benefit. At least a dictator would keep other government officials in line...and if they tried to screw over the people, the dictator would have them executed, since staying on good terms with his subjects is paramount to his future job. Maybe we could choose an elected official to rule, keeping some semblance of democracy, so that the people have a fallback mechanism in place. The military is who enforces the law, and if a dictator was voted out and didn't want to leave, the military would not have to obey him.

People will say that democracy is the only feasible system, but here in America, how much democracy do we really have? The only thing we control is who gets elected into political positions. This is rigged, and there is blatant cheating going on throughout the different levels of government, whether you believe it or not. So this means that the people's choice for that particular office is not honored. How is that democracy?

All the freedoms that we enjoy can still be had under dictatorial rule. The change in the structure of the economy may do much to lower the class differences that are so prevalent in this age, and eliminate the corruption of the financial system. It could definitely work in my opinion.

But I agree that many people will just hear the word "dictator" and start slinging the insults at you. It is because of people like that that we are even discussing altering our government...That's how bad it has gotten, mainly because of clueless people. I know there would be downsides to a dictator ruling the country, but I honestly think that an elected dictator is the way to go, and that the benefits would outweigh the downsides. But as I said, there must be a mechanism in place that does not guarantee that the dictator can do whatever they want, but must act within certain constraints. These would be detailed in a Constitution, and it would have many of the provisions in the current US Constitution, the main difference being that it would be enforced; unlike now, where it is trampled by morons and crooks.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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A multitude of rulers is not a good thing. Let there be one ruler, one king. –Herodotus …

I am a firm believer in this quote, however power over man is the ultimate temptation to corruption. I think if Hitler hadn’t gained an obsession for the superior race, which we all know how that turned out, history may have a different prospective of him. I don’t know, not a Hitler expert, but I do know that here in the US we currently have way to many hands in the cookie jar. If you could some how genetically create a Captain Kirk and make him supreme ruler, I would be ok with that. Make it Darth Vader and that’s a different story….



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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I think it would have been quite different, although the winners write the history, therefore still would have made him out to be a horrible guy.


I agree with all of that. Especially about winners writing history. Many of us feel sorry for Gaddafi. Try reading about him in 60 years


And Im glad we kinda agree. Even though I have haters in here thinking they can insult me for having a different opinion,I have had a few messages and poster saying they have been thinking the same thing. Seems many of us are getting sick of the western Governments telling they cant pass stuff. Then you read in the back of a newspaper that the Australian Government passed 'covered bond legislation' while the morons were arguing about Boat People. They sure as hell can pass the stuff the Banks want passed. Behind our backs. i dont even know a person thats aware of it,and its very serious.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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First of all, Germanicus. I am not being rude to you. I am being forthright. I am simply saying what I believe.

Under the Nazis, that sort of speech would not have been tolerated. Nazi thugs would have done something about it. The same sort of thing is done is all dictatorships, in all societies where free speech is not tolerated.

I doubt if you and I would ever be in a conversation. I'm fairly good at spotting the bully or the person who is likely to respond violently to free speech and I avoid that sort of person. Maybe there is hope for you if you figured that out.

Posting anonymously on these boards is like voting anonymously. It is vital to the exercise of free speech. It is often criticized by mainstream journalists who must tailor their reporting to the views of their masters, but this sort of interchange will ultimately put the mainstream media out of business, unless it follows suit in some way, moving toward freedom of expression of opinion.

I've worked in security for decades Germanicus and I have said a lot of things to a lot of people in a lot of situations. In real life I can't be as straightforward as I can be in an anonymous chat forum. Nobody can be. Not for long, anyway.
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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The problem with having dictators is that some would become corrupt. You would have some looking out for the interest of the people, but most would probably abuse their powers.


Meritocracy is the solution.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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Perhaps you should stay on topic, and take your fighting somewhere else..



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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The Nazis had some great ideas. We are still using some of those ideas today, for better or worse. The fly in the oinment, however, was the dictator. When his ideas were bad and costly, as his racialist ideas were, there was no way to influence him to modify them.

Hitler saved his own mother's Jewish doctor, whom he referred to as a noble Jew, from the holocaust, and saved or shielded others with the right connections, but he condemed millions of other Jews, many noble, brilliant and loyal Germans among them, to be subtracted from society as if they had no value whatever and thus squandered vast amounts of human capital for the sake of a nutty idea.
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by LDragonFire
I guess no mods are online.

A nazi posting a pro nazi thread glorifying hitler. Now threatening to punch people in the face..... attempting to dictate to others how to act..



How was that a threat?

And posting u2us is a violation so yeah, maybe no mods. Not that I will alert.

I am not glorifying anything. You just blindly believe propaganda. Many would not be aware of the 150000 Germans that fought for Hitler and many do not know about Hitler being nominated for a Nobel Peace prize by a jew.

Many also do not understand the lead up to WW2 or the great things Hitler did.

Talking about Hitler is a thought crime isnt it Party Member?



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

When most people hear the word 'Dictator' they immediately think of Hitler.


I think of Hitler. Then I think of Stalin, Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, Mussolini, Kim Sung Il, Kim Jung Il...the list goes on and on. And they all end up the same way.

/TOA



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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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Hitler may have done many great things, I don't know the specifics, but murdering millions of Jews is what he will be remembered by. Dictators would be alright if they did not push their evil agendas. All the good he accomplished could probably be accomplished under democracy or many other political systems as well.. but murdering millions of Jews, that would never take place under modern day democracy.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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Germanicus, people in chat forums just post what they want to say, in conformance to the terms and conditions, which are pretty relaxed.

You are overly sensitive to people who disagree with you. I applaud you for posting and airing your views. At least you are saying, this is what I think, what do you think? That's great, but I suggest that you take in what others are posting and subect it to careful analysis and not be so quick to take personal offense.





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