A Dictator Is The Solution.

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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by auraelium
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The numbers in N.Korea are those who have died in death camps, they dont include the famines that have ravaged the country, there are an estimated 300,000 living at the moment in NK death camps.


And do they call them Death Camps in North Korea do you think?

I wonder what they call US Jails. You guys dont go locking everyone up hey..............wait a minute




posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by auraelium
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The numbers in N.Korea are those who have died in death camps, they dont include the famines that have ravaged the country, there are an estimated 300,000 living at the moment in NK death camps.


And do they call them Death Camps in North Korea do you think?

I wonder what they call US Jails. You guys dont go locking everyone up hey..............wait a minute


They are not comaparable, you get fed in US jails. Life expectancy in NK death capms is -5 years, and reports from escapees say that cannibalism is rampant.
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Mkoll
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Saying that I exhibit stupidity implies that I am expressing the quality of stupidity. I am sorry that I don't want to pick up what he laid down as it is. That is what discussion and finding a consensus is for. Saying that I express stupidity by being "wrong" through defying your preconceptions gets in the way of productive discussion.


Off topic posts get in the way too. You can send her a message you know.

On topic- A dictatorship is the solution.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Benevolent dictators not only exist, but are often loved by their populace.

en.wikipedia.org...

By many accounts, a dictator, as his rule stool unchecked for over 3 decades.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by auraelium

Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by auraelium
reply to post by Germanicus
 


The numbers in N.Korea are those who have died in death camps, they dont include the famines that have ravaged the country, there are an estimated 300,000 living at the moment in NK death camps.


And do they call them Death Camps in North Korea do you think?

I wonder what they call US Jails. You guys dont go locking everyone up hey..............wait a minute


They are not comaparable, you get fed in US jails. Life expectancy in NK death capms is -5 years, and reports from escapees say that cannibalism is rampant.
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Nobody can get into North Korea. I also would not trust anyones story who has escaped.

And if America would stop starving them,maybe conditions would improve.
America needs to seperate a State from its people. You cant just try to starve Cuba,North Korea and Iran. Its demonic.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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There are so many things wrong with the ideas stated in the OP that I don't have the patience or time to say everything I want to say now, but here's a start.


Originally posted by Germanicus
US congress has an all time low approval rating because all they do is argue with each other.


Wrong. Arguing is their job. Congress has an all time low approval rating because they argue as representatives of banksters and multinational corporations, and not the people who elect them.



Our 'senators' of the West have failed us all. It is a state of emergency. Western nations should all consider doing as the Romans would and calling for a Dictator.


True, our senators have failed us, but we have the power to throw them out of office. The problem is not the system, it's the lazy, ignorant masses who care more about their unlimited texting than unlimited taxation.



We must stop going along with the charade that is the capitalist democracy that they give us.


There are plenty of dictatorships around the world right now that you could move to. Name one that you'd like to live in, then remember that no one is holding you here at gunpoint, which ironically, would not be true in a dictatorship. As for your suggestion, no thanks, I'd rather try to fix the system than allow an unelected, unmonitored, and uncontrolled individual make life and death decisions for me.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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"After the war, Lee went on to study in England. He briefly attended the London School of Economics before moving to Cambridge University, where he studied Law at Fitzwilliam College and graduated with a rare Double Starred (double First Class Honours). Lee was subsequently made an honorary fellow of Fitzwilliam College. [13]"
i think someone needs too read this.

wow
3 generations,,cool.


good guy.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by auraelium
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The numbers in N.Korea are those who have died in death camps, they dont include the famines that have ravaged the country, there are an estimated 300,000 living at the moment in NK death camps.


And do they call them Death Camps in North Korea do you think?

I wonder what they call US Jails. You guys dont go locking everyone up hey..............wait a minute

They are called "Work Camps" and the only way out of them is in a box. Your odds of leaving a US jail alive and with your human rights in tact is infinately higher.
Here's an intresting tidbit...if person defects from NK do you know what happens to their family? Apparently the funeral of Jim Jung Il was a bad time to defect.
Anyone Caught Defecting From North Korea Will See Three Generations Of Their Family Executed



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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A dictatorship is like an old fashioned monarchy in some ways. One can see how a dictatorship could evolve into a monarchy. Napoleon is an example. Any dictatorship that depends heavily on a cult of personality, as the Hitler dictatorship did, could easily evolve into a monarchy. I know that Hitler had no (acknowledged) children, so in his case that wouldn't have happened, necessarily, but it is one of the risks of dictatorship.

I have been in one other thread like this with you, disputing claims made about the influence of the Nazis on the economic recovery of Germany after WW1, but I don't want to argue the case all over again, except to urge people to read deeper into the subject and try to get exposed to some non-nazi sources for information.

The question I would like to ask is, what year do you think that it would have been appropriate for the Germans to assassinate Hitler? Numerous attempts were made on his life, and people were thinking about knocking him off very early in WW2.

When would you have done it?



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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Thats what you chose to say? Glad I didnt have to read the rest.

You are "wrong". People dont care,they want to get things passed. Congress is a joke. People are sick of them because they do nothing. Not everyone is an OWSer you know.

And your question makes no sense. The countries that have Dictators are trying to live in an Imperial Empire. So if your standing in that Empire is low,you get bad deals. America rips poor countries off.

I would leave America if I was you. I live in Australia,the best country in the world. I dont need to move yet. If America takes its military out of the Pcific,we should be fine. If you guys mess up our friendship with China,which you are already doing,we could be in trouble. It all comes back to America. And america is a mess. You guys need a dictator to fix things. More than the rest of us do. You are tyhe problem.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
A dictatorship is like an old fashioned monarchy in some ways. One can see how a dictatorship could evolve into a monarchy. Napoleon is an example. Any dictatorship that depends heavily on a cult of personality, as the Hitler dictatorship did, could easily evolve into a monarchy. I know that Hitler had no (acknowledged) children, so in his case that wouldn't have happened, necessarily, but it is one of the risks of dictatorship.

I have been in one other thread like this with you, disputing claims made about the influence of the Nazis on the economic recovery of Germany after WW1, but I don't want to argue the case all over again, except to urge people to read deeper into the subject and try to get exposed to some non-nazi sources for information.

The question I would like to ask is, what year do you think that it would have been appropriate for the Germans to assassinate Hitler? Numerous attempts were made on his life, and people were thinking about knocking him off very early in WW2.

When would you have done it?


Never. I actually think Hitler was right about most things.

And from reading about Hitler I can see why he did not surrender. It is like a Roman general that has been disgraced. The honourable thing to do is kill yourself,not come home a loser. samurai have the same idea. I know many of Hitler decisions seemed wrong in relation to his military orders at the end but I see where he was coming from.

Edit- And look what the demonic Brits did to Dresden anyway. They make me sick. There was no need for that. Hitler already knew how unfair and demonic the Brits were from WW1. Surrender was no option.
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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When most people hear the word 'Dictator' they immediately think of Hitler. Then they think of meglomania and genocide. People forget that Hitler ruled Germany for 5 years before WW2. In that time he took a country that was an economic basketcase due to the crushing Treaty of Versaillis and turned it into the strongest economy in Europe within 4 years.


Reminds of the Star Trek episode where a another starfleet captain mingled with the natives and modeled their society after Hitler only to become a victim of his "Best intentions", however the road to hell have been paved with best intentions,and gas chambers,millions starving, and a whole list of atrocities that are well known.

Here's looking out for the little people to think they need a dictator, a god to "take care of the masses".

Not a fan of centralized power that is nothing but pure authoritarian, totalitarian rule because the saying is a true as it has ever been absolute power corrupts absolutely.

A dictator is the very thing Americans have fought against since the creation of this country history does really repeat itself because people never seem to learn from it.

A dictator is never a soilution especially in a constitutional republic,.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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This post shows where your real values lie. I'm surprised your able to preach this on ATS.

Equating honor and hitler is a joke, your advocating national socialism and hitler and most of his policies, this is shameful!
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
A dictator is never a soilution especially in a constitutional republic,.


Worked for the Romans.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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And France

en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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At the same time Hitler was doing all the "good things" for Germany he was also incarcerating dissidents, the infirm, gypsies, artists and gays as well as openly persecuting Jews. Before the war started he marched in to parts of Austria, Czechoslovakia and France before the fighting actually started. He did it all on loans financed by the American and English bankers.
Keep looking for a good example of a dictator -
Maybe Kim Jong Il?
Saddam?
Stalin?
Pol Pot?
Sukarno?
Napoleon?
Constantine?

I think there's merit in challenging established norms.
But not about everything.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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Yes, but they worked in rare temporary emergency situations. A permanent system of temporary dictators, as it has been proposed in this thread, will eventually turn into a permanent system of permanent dictators.

There certainly have been benevolent dictators such as Gaddafi. They likely have their own authortarian dark side, but in many ways helped thier societies progress. However, seeking out an authoritarian solution is likely to invite disaster, as for every benevolent dictator there are five more terrorizing maniacs.

My argument against absolute authority is that it is an incredibly risky gamble.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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We are not the Romans,but wait yes we are:

"The budget should be balanced the Treasury should be refilled. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled. The assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." — Marcus Tullius Cicero

And Rome fell thousands of years ago.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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was going too say thumbs up,,
then i seen your avitar?,,
hands up??

but i get it.
nice post.



posted on May, 27 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
At the same time Hitler was doing all the "good things" for Germany he was also incarcerating dissidents, the infirm, gypsies, artists and gays as well as openly persecuting Jews. Before the war started he marched in to parts of Austria, Czechoslovakia and France before the fighting actually started. He did it all on loans financed by the American and English bankers.
Keep looking for a good example of a dictator -
Maybe Kim Jong Il?
Saddam?
Stalin?
Pol Pot?
Sukarno?
Napoleon?
Constantine?

I think there's merit in challenging established norms.
But not about everything.


Dont forget the Masons. he kicked them out of Germany.

Communists is what Hitler hated the most. Red Devils.

Edit- Many great dictators of the Roman Republic.
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