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Originally posted by jazzguy
lol 1 flag, that says everything lol. face facts, if ron paul isnt winning, no one cares
Originally posted by MrSpad
Originally posted by jazzguy
lol 1 flag, that says everything lol. face facts, if ron paul isnt winning, no one cares
So true. Their seems to be a huge disconnect between Paul and his followers. He is a politician and has political goals. Never did he think he was going to take the nomination. He has never had a large following and has been soundly rejected twice before. So his goals are promoting the Paul brand. Getting a speaking role at the convention and role for his son in the future of the party are what this has been all about. Now he is trying to reach his goal to speak and his followers are wrecking by stealing delegates and ticking off the people whom Paul has been courting. I would feel sorry for the guy but he created this monster to begin with. When you court a certain group of people outside the mainstream this is the price you pay.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by jjf3rd77
I already proved the green papers wrong in that thread. You can look and see that the numbers for the states that Paul has been proven to have won do not reflect the correct numbers.
Originally posted by jazzguy
lol 1 flag, that says everything lol. face facts, if ron paul isnt winning, no one cares
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by jazzguy
lol 1 flag, that says everything lol. face facts, if ron paul isnt winning, no one cares
so flags = facts??? Really?
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Because I tend to believe official sources before internet people and random blogs!
Originally posted by Swamper
Thats going to lead to being incorrect alot. I remember studying WWI and how newspapers in the UK were made to lie to make it seem like we were winning and that conditions weren't so bad. Why stop lying if it's been done since the mass production of media?
Originally posted by Jagermeister
Your thread, including it's title, is a hoax, a lie even. Not only should this thread be thrown in the hoax bin, but your account should be banned for continuing to politically troll the members of this website as you've done since the day you signed up. You are a troll and or a shill. That is why you have 1 flag.
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Jagermeister
Your thread, including it's title, is a hoax, a lie even. Not only should this thread be thrown in the hoax bin, but your account should be banned for continuing to politically troll the members of this website as you've done since the day you signed up. You are a troll and or a shill. That is why you have 1 flag.
I don't know why you are so emotionally involved in this. If you say its wrong, then prove me wrong otherwise, saying my account should be banned is not much of a threat, in my book. I have been attacked in that manner more than once even off this thread. So come back later with some meat to your argument.
Originally posted by Jagermeister
Your thread is a lie and it's been proven multiple times by multiple people within the hoax that is your thread. You want more meat to my post? How many threads have you created that either have Ron Paul in their title or description? In the past 2 minutes, I've counted 14 and then I got sick of counting. Who does that? Why are you so emotionally involved in this? You are a political troll or you are paid to post on this website. There is no other option. Either way, your account should be banned and the only reason that it's not, is because the mods aren't doing their damn job. Every other day there's a new thread about how bad Ron Paul is or how he can never win with you. Now you even lie to push your agenda and the mods won't move the hoax thread into the hoax bin.
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Jagermeister
Your thread is a lie and it's been proven multiple times by multiple people within the hoax that is your thread. You want more meat to my post? How many threads have you created that either have Ron Paul in their title or description? In the past 2 minutes, I've counted 14 and then I got sick of counting. Who does that? Why are you so emotionally involved in this? You are a political troll or you are paid to post on this website. There is no other option. Either way, your account should be banned and the only reason that it's not, is because the mods aren't doing their damn job. Every other day there's a new thread about how bad Ron Paul is or how he can never win with you. Now you even lie to push your agenda and the mods won't move the hoax thread into the hoax bin.
Well, this thread is not supposed to be about Ron Paul. It's supposed to be about Romney. You guys hijacked it complaining that my info is wrong when I have not heard a good response as to why it is wrong that I have already debunked! I cannot verify any info on the map. Since they have removed all the links to their data and the data I do find from them is only supported on Ron Paul forums.
The Michigan Link all but proves this fact. You can see in the comment section that the writer is a biased Ron Paul supporter. Then once someone questions his data, that man is yelled at by 20 or so other random Ron Paul supporters. It's blatantly obvious, and I have not come across any other sources but his own links to verify that source which the map uses. Very faulty data if you ask me.
Originally posted by Jagermeister
The delegates are counted at the convention. Even those bound to Romney can become unbound. If you want to have a fair discussion fine, if you want to state an opinion state it as an opinion, but don't twist the information to make it seem one way or the other. For the record, I don't support people that do the same with Paul. Romney can not clinch the nomination until Florida and neither can Paul. Your OP states otherwise, which is a lie, thus the thread should be moved to the hoax bin.
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Jagermeister
The delegates are counted at the convention. Even those bound to Romney can become unbound. If you want to have a fair discussion fine, if you want to state an opinion state it as an opinion, but don't twist the information to make it seem one way or the other. For the record, I don't support people that do the same with Paul. Romney can not clinch the nomination until Florida and neither can Paul. Your OP states otherwise, which is a lie, thus the thread should be moved to the hoax bin.
So after three posts you are finally settling down. Good! Now, you are wrong about Romney. The bound delegates are bound to him that's why they are called bound! Each delegate is legally bound to who they vote for. And once Romney reaches the magic number of delegates that's all that is going to matter. All of the other unbound delegates can do whatever the heck they want. Because there is not enough remaining delegates to be bound to Ron Paul for him to beat Romney! I know the MSM, knows and so do you!
Originally posted by Jagermeister
And after the first round those bound delegates become unbound. Those delegates can choose not to vote. I never said it was easy to unbind the delegates, just that it's possible. Regardless, Romney cannot clinch the nomination until the convention.
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Jagermeister
And after the first round those bound delegates become unbound. Those delegates can choose not to vote. I never said it was easy to unbind the delegates, just that it's possible. Regardless, Romney cannot clinch the nomination until the convention.
What do you mean after the first round? There is only going to be one round of voting!
This is what I mean, since you are using faulty data you think there is going to be a brokered convention. Romney is going to win all of the major delegates in Texas. If not then definitely on June 5. The only way for your scenario to become reality is if Romney didn't get to 1,144 delegates before the convention and according to the greenpapers, realclearpolitics, google, wikipedia, and any other independent source that is not some obscure blog with unverifiable information that scenario is 100% impossible!
Again, you only have second round voting in the case that there is a brokered convention and that will never happen!edit on 26-5-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Romney has no serious competition left in the race. He has been solely focusing his attention on Obama. And in a recent speech Obama actually called Romney the candidate to beat. Those two are butting heads and Soon it will be official, with no chance of a brokered convention, like some were hoping for.
On May 29 Mitt Romney will become the official Republican Nominee for the President of the United States!
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