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America Is Terminal. How Long Does It Have Left?

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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:45 PM

Originally posted by A-Dub
It is all by design, economies are the new battlegrounds, I mean heck thats all Al Qaeda was aiming to do was make us broke.

The immigration that once made america great is now its downfall IMO because you get many people who are loyal to other countries into positions of power here.

I can think of very few immigrants in positions of power in the U.S. I'm sure, we've got a few congressmen who were probably immigrants, and we have some dual-citizenship Israeli-American senators and appointees, but really very few immigrants in any real power.

We do have corporations with lots of foreign money Funding candidates now, and that is definitely a HUGE issue.

You're right about economies being battlegrounds, but its not new. In the 1980's, after a very flat debt curve, the nation was in a panic over the rapidly skyrocketing Reagan debt. What happened in the end, as a result? The Soviet Union collapsed (it was more complex than that, but that was an economic war.). Shortly after, everyone was in another panic "the Japanese are buying up our whole country!" well, they were - we drew them into a massive U.S. Property purchasing frenzy. That collapsed, their Yen was left here, and so were the vast swaths of properties they defaulted on.

If I've learned anything about economic warfare, its these three things:
1) when things look bad for the U.S. Economy, its usually trickery in action
2) the middle class takes the brunt as the economic war rages on
3) the U.S. Always wins. Ultimately, the middle class ends up left with a smaller share of a much larger pie

This is simply my 36 years of observation and research. Of course, UT doesn't mean history will repeat again, but it sure looks like it is so far.

posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:47 PM
big changes going on, we will no longer be slaves....

all that is not in harmony with mother earth and humanity shall fall...

thank you

posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:51 PM
Here is a true solution, but it will be a hard one to swallow.

Gather up at the Federal Reserve, bring up molotov coktail, pitch and forks, burn that building down, dismantle it.
Most of USA debt is zeroed. Do I miss somewhere ? Oh tasers!

Who are the culprit in Episode One ? Ahh yeah, the banking clan. How justice was killed? Ahh the applaud of New World Order, of course, money will lead first.

Expect XDRUSD! Whoops, I found another candidate, WCU and Wocu, interesting, Bancor is old stuff.
edit on 24-5-2012 by NullVoid because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 24 2012 @ 07:08 PM
reply to post by Germanicus

It's going to last as long as they can pay the interest on their bonds. When they can no longer do that, America will collapse. So don't expect it anytime soon unless we get robbed again like those trillions of dollars that went missing then all of a sudden we had a recession.

posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:48 PM
Just a question, why most Americans is in denial ?
With the debt numbers like that people should be asking already where is their share.
Cmon, we are talking trillions in debt here.
$15,723,155,943,903---16 numbers ! Gimme some.

posted on May, 25 2012 @ 12:21 AM
reply to post by NullVoid

I would venture at least 60percent of americans pay absolutely no attention to the stock market or any real news, they listen to the MSM for 30 minutes each evening and completely believe the crap that they're fed. 40 percent of americans watch absolutely no news and have their faces glued to their phone and are watching "realty t.v.", like the kardashians and snookie, 50 percent of americans pay no federal taxes and live off government welfare or SS checks. Look at the rates of graduation from high school in our country and see how many people are still functionally illiterate even "after graduation." Our country needs a revolution, but too many people are content to lie around, take the cornocopia of pharmacueticals that are pushed by TPTB - how many psuedo wieght loss pills are bought up by our ignorant masses? Meanwhile, our 1 political pary (democrats and republicans) continue to push non-issues like the war on women (because a law student is having so much sex and she can't pay for that many condoms) or the whole "race war" see the many threads on ATS, or class war - I have never had a poor man give me a job? The silly idea that more government jobs - which are supposed to be paid by a vibrant tax base, private tax-paying companies and real estate taxes - are the answer to out national debt. Our country is doomed.

posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:21 AM

Originally posted by NullVoid
Just a question, why most Americans is in denial ?
With the debt numbers like that people should be asking already where is their share.
Cmon, we are talking trillions in debt here.
$15,723,155,943,903---16 numbers ! Gimme some.

I don't think most Americans are in denial. I think that belief is propagated here in an effort to make the membership feel like they're better than everyone, or in some sort of secret club, in on some valuable information that the "gullible masses" aren't.

Truth be told, our rising debt has been front in center of our politics for awhile now, even leading to the forming of political groups such as the Tea Party. The debate on raising the debt ceiling and the credit downgrade afterward was a huge news item for awhile. And with a presidential election coming up, be prepared to hear about it more and more.

It just seems like a good chunk of the membership here doesn't like the idea that they're no more informed than a lot of people in this country. It breaks their illusion of being special.

posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:59 AM
Hmm ok, so Americans are not in denial eh ? Fine with me.
For now, my sauron eyes is looking at euro, after euro collapse in few more months, I'll shift focus to USD I guess

Trading tips from a pro-socialist/communist (what an irony! using capitalist tools

Short EURUSD for next few months - monthly timescale
demand trendline price projection target is 1.11 to 1.0288 and even far low 0.9304 - 0.8155,
supply trendline shows possible cover/retrace at 1.20 (previous resistance)
Heiken Ashi have show the path - its red
Current price is 1.2515 Friday 25/5, for now USD is rising and EUR as you know it

Reverse position after that and watch how the money moved to EUR, as usual, follow the money and enjoy the ride!

Lets see how my prophecy works out in few months
I love my indicators!

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 11:03 PM
I could end the deficit in 5 minutes

Warren Buffett, in a interview with CNBC a few years ago, offered one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling ...

"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC.
"You just pass a law that says that any time there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election."

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds)
took only 3 months and 8 days to be ratified! Why?

Simple! The people demanded it.

That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution,
seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land
all because of public pressure. Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email
to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.
In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message.

This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2013

1. No Tenure/No Pension

A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately.
All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.

Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system
and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 06/01/2013.

The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.

Congress made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.

The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s),
then go home and back to work.

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 11:27 PM
reply to post by Germanicus

Q: "America Is Terminal. How Long Does It Have Left?"
A: "About two more minutes chief."

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