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Man Loses $22,000 In New 'Policing For Profit' Case

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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi


Duly noted... I'm never going to Tennessee.
I'd actually like a ride off this insane asylum if there's any UFO's departing from here soon.




the reason this comment has so many stars is because we all want a ride, and we all hope if we star the comment, the aliens will say, "oh! they wanna come with us also!, lets bring them. ok."


hope is a beautiful thing.
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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WEll IF you acted with force or any other way, they would make sure your butt sat in jail with charges for a long azz time and then you could probably kiss that money good bye. He was calm and it paid off. I agree I would not be able to afford to lose that much money either. I really feel that this should be illegal..I mean Hell this is worse than having to bribe officers in Mexico.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Sunglower
I didn't read every comment in the thread, but why would you have $22,000 in cash on your person? If it wasn't for drugs, why would someone carry that much money on them? Everybody uses credit or debit cards now a days. Many many people don't even carry any cash at all on them any more. I'm all for real money vs a credit card....but it seems like way too much money to have on your person at the time.

George Reby said that he told Monterey officers that "I had active bids on EBay, that I was trying to buy a vehicle. They just didn't want to hear it." ~~Aren't you required to go through Ebay when purchasing an item?





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The thing is....it's nobody's business asking him what he was doing with that money. As long as there isn't any evidence that he's involved in an illegal activity, he has every right to carry that amount.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by PeaceNLove123

Originally posted by Sunglower
I didn't read every comment in the thread, but why would you have $22,000 in cash on your person? If it wasn't for drugs, why would someone carry that much money on them? Everybody uses credit or debit cards now a days. Many many people don't even carry any cash at all on them any more. I'm all for real money vs a credit card....but it seems like way too much money to have on your person at the time.

George Reby said that he told Monterey officers that "I had active bids on EBay, that I was trying to buy a vehicle. They just didn't want to hear it." ~~Aren't you required to go through Ebay when purchasing an item?





edit on 23-5-2012 by Sunglower because: adding quote and opinion


The thing is....it's nobody's business asking him what he was doing with that money. As long as there isn't any evidence that he's involved in an illegal activity, he has every right to carry that amount.


Interesting comments both. Why do you think Sunglower that a man has no right to carry what he wants when he wants? The comment you make 'Everybody uses credit or debit cards...' is a fallacy. A lot do but not everyone and no-one has the right to insist you do use one. Also you bid for cars on Ebay and pay cash normally when you go and kick the tyres.

PeaceNLove: Couldnt agree more. I won 50k GBP in a casino once and didn't want a cheque I wanted packets of notes to throw around the room when I got home. I carried that cash home in my car stuffed in the glove box. Tell me if the police stopped me would there be traces of coc aine on that money? Of course there would, statistically improbable not to be. The point is though you can do what you want when you want as long as you are not breaking the law. If I chose to have a bajillion dollars/pounds in my car and I haven't broken the law to get it then that's my business nobody elses!!

Also as you say: 'isn't any evidence'., the onus is on the troopers to PROVE criminal activity not the accused to prove he isn't involved in criminal activity.
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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My neighbor has terminal cancer and sold his RV to alleviate some of the medical costs.

On his way back, he was pulled over for not having a front license plate on his car. When asked if he had anything in the vehicle he was honest and stated he had a small amount of medical marijuana and the cash from the sale of his RV.

The medical marijuana was seized, despite it being legal in California. I guess the officer didn't believe his cancer story, and of course took his cash.

The sad thing is, now he's so far gone he wont be alive for his day in court.

I never thought I would see this kind of behavior in this country. Law enforcement these days are simply robots that operate like assembly line workers.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Another observation about the LEO in the OP's seizure case.

I was a on my local public safety committe and we had guidelines for appearance. A neck or face tattoo that was visible while in a standard uniform was legal grounds for termination.

Makes him look like any other thug gang member.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Your post rang true for me also. My husband and I are quickly approaching our later years and have talked about this very issue many times. We both are glad that we won't have to face what the next generations will.

BTW, the tv special they are referring to, about Tennessee, has been on several times over the past year or so- it's not a new story. They admit to having to make quotas or lose their jobs, and they police certain sides of the highway system differently, using the idea that one has the drug runners, which they let through, and the other side the money from the drugs, which they police heavily and stop many people under any and all pretenses. You don't necessarily just lose your cash, but you can also lose your car, or in one case, a guy lost his semi truck. Often charges aren't ever filed, if this program can be believed. They count on the idea that you won't come back after your money, or fight it in court, as it costs a great deal to fight such a battle in court.
Another fact- cops are not required to be truthful with you. They are NOT your friends. As one guy said, don't give em any info other than what is required, and in most states that is your driver's license, car registration and insurance card. You do not have to answer any further questions, no matter how much they try and scare you. Always be polite to the officer, never have an attitude, but don't ever give them any information that they can use against you.
Stealing money from folks going about normal business is just wrong, no matter how you look at it. I don't know how these cops sleep at night. Sure there are good ones out there yet, but they seem to be fewer and fewer as the years go on. I've often carried large amounts of cash when travelling, as its just more convenient when you need to gas up a 100 gallon RV gas tank and the place doesn't take debit type cards. Yeah, there are still places out here like that. But, in all honesty, I'd never admit to carrying a large amount of cash to anyone.

To the person who had that story about bailing someone out of jail with cash, I would definitely use a bail bondsman to make such a transaction. While they do make their fair share, you won't lose your money to unscrupulous police officers.

In my own personal opinion, I feel that broadcasting to the world that you admittedly steal cash from unsuspecting motorists, is really a bit much. They should be immediately investigated and shut down, if that's what is necessary. They should pay the same penalties that civillians pay, if they break the law. This is the lazy man's way to make money, as I see it. Unfortunately, their actions may have a direct affect on the state's economy and not for the better. As word gets around that you should stay away from a certain area, that area's income will go down, and people even may move away to get away from such practices. It's a spiral that can go nowhere but down.

Thanks for a good article OP. It's still timely, even if a bit dated.
This problem isn't going to go away until we, the citizens finally get their fill of this nonsense and say "no more".



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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That's sad...it doesn't matter if you have alot of money say over 1,000. The cops automatically think its drug money and they can take it away from you without providing proof that it is.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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www.newschannel5.com...

Some agencies are starting to have turf wars over who gets to patrol what area.
They money is supplementing a lot of departments budgets.
One solution would be for the state to sieze all the money taken and put it into the general cofiers.
Once they no longer profit from it they will be less motivated.

I grew up in Tennessee and once did a college project riding with the police in a small town.
They police pulled some people over then put them in the back of a squad car, with the windows rolled up, for "thier safety". They then went to search the car. But they need consent right? So they ask over thier shoulder to the squad car 50 feet away if they can search the car. They of course get no reply.
By some strange rule silence was considered as consent.
Go figure.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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I was traveling west on I 40 through southern Illinois just before St. Louis and got pulled over for doing 63 in a 55. I swear the last sign I saw said 65. My GPS said 65, and the next sign after I was pulled over said 65.

The officer kept repeating himself trying hard to trip me up. "Any drugs in the car? Nope. Any weapons in the car? Nope. Any cash in the car? Nope. Any drugs in the trunk? Nope. Any weapons in the trunk? Nope. Any cash in the trunk? I wish. (trying to make a joke). Anything I should know about in the vehicle? Don't think so. So you're responsible for everything in the vehicle? Well, it's MY car, yeah. Want to look?

He emptied my trunk on the side of the road and searched through m car. It was FREEZING cold and I had a perforated eardrum and the wind wasn't helping. I was on my way back to Arizona from a trip to Chicago. "What were you doing in Chicago? Uncle died, had to get in his storage and talk to an attorney. How long was I there? About a week. Where did I stay? My cousin's. Does he live in Chicago? Yup.

We went into his car and he asked me about priors. One, in 1997, totally bogus weapons charge in California for coming back from a shooting range and having the guns under a blanket in the back of my friends pickup truck. Therefore considered "concealed". The charges were expunged, but I didn't lie. So when it came back over the radio all of a sudden he trusted me because I told him the truth when I really didn't even have to.

The officer then told me 40 was the main corridor for drugs, guns and money back and forth across the US. He gave me a warning for 8 mph over the limit and improper lane changes? I didn't change any lanes. And he said he saw my brake lights when I saw him. NO! I thought I was going under the limit and didn't even see him until I was pulled over.

Total shakedown. And screwed up my ears even more. The other ear ended up with a bleeding puncture also because of the infection and freezing wind. But at least he didn't "drop" anything in my car.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
The fellow did get his money back:


After Reby filed an appeal, and after NewsChannel 5 began investigating, the state agreed to return his money -- if he'd sign a statement waiving his constitutional rights and promising not to sue.


He only had to sign away his rights...



Isn't this just the cherry on the pie!

"U'll get your cash back, just don't sue us because we know we're scamming you and would be crushed in court"

That's even worse then stealing the money in the first place lol.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Interesting. I was planning a trip next year that included a drive through that area. I won't be doing that now.

The probable solution would be to encourage a boycott of tourism in that State. If it took hold the legislature would stop it because the business community would demand it.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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Why would someone driving on a business trip have over $20 K CASH in their car? If you take more than $10 K out of your bank in cash it has to be reported.

I smell more to this story being revealed.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Liberal1984
This is the perfect law to protect the banks isn't it? If ever there were a bank run, I'm sure there would be a policeman confiscating (till proven innocent) the money of bank clients. Hay its not like they even need to pass any emergency powers -they already have them. So America isn't really a democracy is it? Everywhere you look there's holes be it not being able to buy proper organic food, elect a republican candidate democratically, or much else besides.


That's if they don't collapse the dollar first....I heard on Coast to coast that is the plan, and when it happens the only sign would be they raise interest rates from zero to 1%. to think our economy is so bad that just that action can cause a collapse....we are so in debt.

Chances are they will be looking for gold and silver, jewelry and other valuables.
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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Is it not enough that our monetary system allows the existence of extremely poor and extremely rich people and taxation from all directions by our government, but now we are subject to being robbed and extorted by the same government we are asked to trust with our protection and quality of life?

It's ok if you don't pay enough taxes to meet current budget demands, don't sweat it... the King has a plan to make up the difference and it will only effect a tiny percentage of the population, so chances are that you will never be effected by this plan...



I wonder how long it will be, before we start to piece these things together and realize they are all part of the change America is going through right now?

How much will have to happen before it boils over and becomes apparent that we have allowed a foundation for a police state to be built upon.

How many right have been taken already? How many injustices have taken place as a result of these losses?

Were the countries, where a police state type of rule was implemented, aware of what they were headed for when the plan was originally introduced?

Did they know that the small steps and changes in policy were a part of the process to gain complete domination and control by those governments & the ruling class of that country... or did they buy the assertions that it was all being done for their protection and the overall well being of the country, the citizens, and the allies?

Are our hands being held as we are walked through the process of change, step by step taking 1 right away or changing one aspect of a law, until the face of the United States is no longer recognizable and our liberties and freedoms have been regulated to a point where they are no longer freedoms and liberties at all, but more closely resemble guidelines/rules/laws that must be followed to sustain the idea of freedom presented by the new modified government?

Will we allow the regulation of our freedom to such an extent that it no longer resembles what we believe the embodiment of freedom should consist of?



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by babybunnies
Why would someone driving on a business trip have over $20 K CASH in their car? If you take more than $10 K out of your bank in cash it has to be reported.

I smell more to this story being revealed.


You have to read the article to know what a thread is about. He was trying to purchase a vehicle on ebay and was on a trip so he brought the cash for that purpose.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by esteay812

Will we allow the regulation of our freedom to such an extent that it no longer resembles what we believe the embodiment of freedom should consist of?


We are already there.

Yours was a good but sad read.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Romekje

Originally posted by boncho
The fellow did get his money back:


After Reby filed an appeal, and after NewsChannel 5 began investigating, the state agreed to return his money -- if he'd sign a statement waiving his constitutional rights and promising not to sue.


He only had to sign away his rights...



Isn't this just the cherry on the pie!

"U'll get your cash back, just don't sue us because we know we're scamming you and would be crushed in court"

That's even worse then stealing the money in the first place lol.


I'd have said stuff the 22k I am taking you all the way through the courts. And the bit about having to drive to pick up a cheque they wouldn't mail!!!!



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by babybunnies
Why would someone driving on a business trip have over $20 K CASH in their car? If you take more than $10 K out of your bank in cash it has to be reported.

I smell more to this story being revealed.


You have to read the article to know what a thread is about. He was trying to purchase a vehicle on ebay and was on a trip so he brought the cash for that purpose.


He also could have withdrawn a $1,000 a month and hid it in the woods for 22 months for all it matters. PROVE CRIMINALITY NOT ASSUME CRIMINALITY



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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you are right

Here soon I expect to see it happen over the money. It will cost some good officers their lives.

It is building up slowly as a sociological pressure..



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