Will Planet X be visible during the eclipse on May 20th?, page 1


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Topic started on 17-5-2012 @ 08:59 PM by PlanetXisHERE
Well, first of all, let me say, if you are not interested in this topic no one is forcing you to read this thread.

Secondly, this is ATS, not the Ladies Home Journal, so if this topic bothers you then maybe ATS is not the website for you.

About viewing Planet X

Many say, quite reasonably, that if Planet X was coming at us from the Sun (it's nearest approach is predicted to be 14 million miles), that it should be plainly visible. Good point. However, did you know that there are literally billions of objects in the universe that emit light in the non-visible spectrum, that cannot be seen with the naked eye, and can only be seen with special instruments? Well, Planet X is one of these celestial bodies, is impossible to see at this point with the naked eye, because it is emitting light from the IR spectrum AND appears close to the sun from earth at this time (when seen with IR filters). It is best seen with IR filters, one of the best is the red filter from an old floppy disk, and the best time to view it is during dusk or dawn (with an IR filter).

Anyway, this eclipse may give many a better opportunity to view it as much of the Sun's radiation will be blocked and sunset/sunrise conditions will be simulated and surpassed.

So view the NASA links to figure out if you live in an area of the Western US that will be in a prime position to view the eclipse, get your floppy disk or other IR filter and camera ready, and if you see anything interesting please take some pics and share!

shadowandsubstance.com...

By the way, for the skeptics, people aren't interested in the Planet X phenomenon just because of a few ancient sayings, Mayan or Biblical refernces, there are many unusual events, most seen before but on a huge increase, that many believe are associated with the drawing near of Planet X:

Strange Weather
Record Tornadoes
Record drought
Record volcanoes As many in one year now, as what use to be a decades total.
Record earthquakes
Record crop devastation
Floods
Tides are rising, and the moons orbit is off.
solar flares
pipelines all across the country ruptured
Meteor showers increasing.
Magnetic poles are shifting faster and faster
The Solar activity of the sun has changed dramatically
Cosmic ray intensity has increased dramatically
Bees are disappearing, and they navigate using a solar compass
Mass fish die offs
Mass bird deaths.
New fault lines awakened in Virginia, & Nevada to name a few.
Giant sink holes opening up all around the world.
The surface of the earth actually creating giant rips in the earths crust on the surface for all to see.
New geysers seen venting in California.
What sounds like horns blowing recorded in florida, Russia, etc.
The smells of sulfur or fuel being reported in many areas of the world, the latest reports in California.
Disturbances in our solar system with storms on Jupiter increasing, Saturn being altered.

What are the Governments of the world doing?

Storing massive amounts of Meals read to eat
Sucking up massive amounts of medication, and pharmaceuticals
Digging under ground bunkers around the world at a world record setting pace
Trillions of dollars dissappearing both from the pentagon, and the from the Federal Reserve.
Governments practicing detainment techniques.
CIA has relocated it's headquarters to Denver
Denver world airport has been turned into a giant subterranean facility.
Denver has the biggest underground water treatment and purification center.
EPA starts closing down it's library network.
GLobal Seed Bank built
Bush buys 98,000 acres in paraguay Father already owns 200,000
Hr5122 bypasses the forbidence of US troops operating on US soil
In 2001 264 dams needed repair, in 2009 over 1,200 damns across america are in need of repair, and the elites are no longer worried about infrastructure.
South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability
NSPD-51 Gives power to the president to take over complete and total rule
July 2007 Vatican closes library that has been opened for over 500 years.
Dutch are preparing for catastrophe, and apocalypse.
2008 3rd infantry's deployed 6,000 us troops on US soil
2011 Space rocks and asteroids are now classified top secret
Climategate was used as an explanation of what is happening to the earth, as the changes became more magnetic in nature, it was switched from global warming to climate change.
Yellowstone National Park has been having thousands of earthquakes.
Chemtrails have been blanketing the earth containing barium, Barium is used for radiation shielding.
Constant media blitz in order to keep the people occupied with one big story after another.
Increasing number of shows are now about survival.
Media black outs on comet information. Anyone remember the Media hype about Haley's comet
Google has blocked out a large area in space next to the constellation of Orion.
Fema Camps built
Mass coffin storage in Georgia.
The propping up of the stock market, at any cost, and any expense, even if it is open fraud!

And the latest suspension of the constitution, executive orders, NDAA, millions of hollow points, etc. etc.


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:08 PM by Xcalibur254
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Just because an object doesn't produce light in the visible spectrum doesn't mean it doesn't reflect light. Let's go with the Planet Xers favorite scapegoat, the brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have a composition and reflectivity that is almost identical to that of Jupiter. Guess what? We can clearly see Jupiter. Why? Because it reflects light from the Sun. Any object as dense as a planet is going to reflect light and it will be visible.

Now please explain how Planet X would cause any of those events you described in your post.



reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:16 PM by PlanetXisHERE
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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post by PlanetXisHERE



Just because an object doesn't produce light in the visible spectrum doesn't mean it doesn't reflect light. Let's go with the Planet Xers favorite scapegoat, the brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have a composition and reflectivity that is almost identical to that of Jupiter. Guess what? We can clearly see Jupiter. Why? Because it reflects light from the Sun. Any object as dense as a planet is going to reflect light and it will be visible.

Now please explain how Planet X would cause any of those events you described in your post.


Your first sentence is confusing, you are saying an object may not produce light in the visible spectrum and still be visible to the naked human eye? Of course such an object can still reflect light, but not light in the visible spectrum - hence not visible to the naked human eye.

To your second question - how is Planet X causing these effects? Well, it is four times the earth's diameter and 28 x it's mass, and is highly magnetic, thus it is influencing earth magnetically, which is causing increased tectonic activity, which causes many of the effects described.


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:17 PM by OccamAssassin
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As I have often stated, I do not like telling people what to think, I like them to do their own research and come up with their own conclusions. So are you saying people who are interested in possibly seeing Planet X should not check out the sun with IR filters during the eclipse, and just listen to Phage?


No, I am stating that if you use an IR filter whilst viewing the sun when it has a low angle of incidence with the horizon.....You will get a second "refracted" image of the sun.

I was asking Phage if it was an "Artificial Sundog" as Phage is good with optic theory.


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:18 PM by Ex_CT2
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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post by PlanetXisHERE



Just because an object doesn't produce light in the visible spectrum doesn't mean it doesn't reflect light. Let's go with the Planet Xers favorite scapegoat, the brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have a composition and reflectivity that is almost identical to that of Jupiter. Guess what? We can clearly see Jupiter. Why? Because it reflects light from the Sun. Any object as dense as a planet is going to reflect light and it will be visible.

Now please explain how Planet X would cause any of those events you described in your post.

How dare you use reason? Dammit, man, can't you see that the whole illusion relies upon the invisibility of Planet X at this point? It's been debunked so thoroughly and so often that its existence can no longer be maintained if it's allowed to be visible. Invisibility is the last straw that can be clutched in this urgent matter; you mustn't take that away.

And don't you even pretend that it would be absurd and entirely pointless for old floppy disks to have had IR filters, either....


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:20 PM by PlanetXisHERE
Originally posted by OccamAssassin
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post by PlanetXisHERE





As I have often stated, I do not like telling people what to think, I like them to do their own research and come up with their own conclusions. So are you saying people who are interested in possibly seeing Planet X should not check out the sun with IR filters during the eclipse, and just listen to Phage?


No, I am stating that if you use an IR filter whilst viewing the sun when it has a low angle of incidence with the horizon.....You will get a second "refracted" image of the sun.

I was asking Phage if it was an "Artificial Sundog" as Phage is good with optic theory.



Well, I'm not sure if that is a fact, I'd like to see some kind of link apart from "Phage says so", but I'm open to the idea.

However, that is the point of this thread. For parts of the eclipse the Sun won't be at a shallow angle of incidence to the horizon, it will be higher in the sky, negating the supposed effect you are postulating.


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:24 PM by TgP3o6
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You sir are my hero! Everything u have said makes sense. Spread your gospel to the clueless zombies before it's too late. We should just all rampage with looting riots of helpless souls sooner than later before we are on the brink of worldwide catastrophe. I my friends will be taking allll the bacon for my last meal!


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:25 PM by OccamAssassin
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However, that is the point of this thread. For parts of the eclipse the Sun won't be at a shallow angle of incidence to the horizon, it will be higher in the sky, negating the supposed effect you are postulating.


Didn't you say that the best time to see this was at dawn and dusk?


It is best seen with IR filters, one of the best is the red filter from an old floppy disk, and the best time to view it is during dusk or dawn (with an IR filter).


It doesn't seem to show up on either stereo sats.

Is it invisible to satellites using IR filters?

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reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:25 PM by alkesh
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE



did i say not to look for yourselfs? no i didn't. i simply said learn something about the subject instead of jumping to conclusions.. i strongly encourage everyone to look into this..you will not only learn something about the universe we live in you will also be able to tell the difference between total bs and ideas that are plausible..this being total bs.. but yeah you go ahead and tell us how the sky is falling..


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 09:52 PM by Xcalibur254
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE



What I'm saying is that just because an object doesn't produce its own light doesn't mean it can't reflect visible light. The only object in the solar system that actually produces visible light is the Sun. However, we can easily see the other planets because they reflect the light the Sun produces. The only thing I can think of that would only be visible in the IR spectrum is an infrared cirrus but we would have nothing to fear from an infrared cirrus.

As for the other part of my post, I know that standard rhetoric. What I'm asking is how is its mass or magnetic field causing these changes. What is the mechanism that allows it to cause every possible natural disaster known to Man?

I also have another question. If one of the ways it is affecting us is through its magnetic field why aren't we detecting it? We have a number of instruments to measure the Earth's magnetic field. If another planet's magnetic field began interacting with the Earth's magnetic field it would be clearly detected.
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