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Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by NullVoid
Peace be upon you my brother.
Why did I leave the religion you ask? Because I believe in having Love, Compassion, and Forgiveness to all life, even though they may disagree with me or even hate me. I do not agree with slavery, raping female slaves, hitting my wife, or executing homosexuals. I do not believe the word of two women equals the word of one man. I do not agree with sacrificing any innocent animals during Hajj or Umrah. I believe in PEACE above any jihad. ALL humans are my family... not only those who believe or think like me.
Originally posted by rasta420
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
interesting ill have to look into the koran never read anything from it before.
"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion."
- Al-Qur'an, Suratul Mā'idah, Chapter 5, Verse 3
Wrong. Your antichristian bias is talking here. You think you know the Word but you really don't. The particular verses you are quoting is refering to false disciples and false prophets, which can be anyone who claims to obey Yeshua but does not keep his commandments, which is in it's entirety, the whole of Islam and some christians and ofcourse secular folks who also do not keep his commandments.
Now when you read the Gospels did you ever see Christ's advocate such a blatant violation of his laws? Islam allows the taking of another man's wife for booty and her marriage is annulled under islam and they may rape her or take her as their own wife (When did Yeshua ever say to do this?)
How can Islam ever bring people to Jesus when Islam does not mention such beautiful concepts without restrictions or limitations?
If we can say Islam propagates Love, Compassion, and Forgiveness above all else, then we can say that Islam brings people to Jesus, because these were his main teachings.
So the question remains... IF Islam brings people to Jesus... does that mean it forces them to read the bible...
IF that isn't the case... i don't see how this religion can bring people to Jesus...
"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." [Qur'an 5:51]
"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people...." [Qur'an 3:118]
"For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies." [Qur'an 4:101]
Can we be truthful? Islam's philosophy is, "You're either with us or against us."
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Christians promote Jesus as god. Bad thinking that disrupts the unity of the world.
Muhammad is considered the last Prophet of god.
Originally posted by Joecroft
So Yeah… Islam should, in a perfect world, lead to Jesus…
Doesn't sound like he was interested in people other than his own.
Why did he liken the Canaanite woman to a dog?
Why did he instruct his disciples to skip the gentile towns, but go only to the Israelites?
You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
“‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules. ’
- Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 15:7-9
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
- Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 7:21-23
"I worship not that which you worship, nor will you worship that which I worship.
And I will not worship that which you have been accustomed to worship, nor will you worship that which I worship.
To you be your Way, and to me mine."
- Qur'an, Suratul Kafiroon, Chapter 109:2-6
Let me assure you friend, racism or religious superiority is not a strongly re-occurring theme espoused by Jesus throughout the collective canonical, gnostic, and apocryphal gospels.
Luke 9: 51-56
51 Now it came to pass, when the time had come for Him to be received up, that He steadfastly set His face to go to Jerusalem, 52 and sent messengers before His face. And as they went, they entered a village of the Samaritans, to prepare for Him. 53 But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. 54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.