"We are Preparing for Massive Civil War," Says DHS Informant

reply to post by ADVISOR


from your link..

Indeed, in a description of their philosophy which appeared in its first issue in the summer of 1994, The Resister said it favored: "strict constitutionalism, isolationism, laissez-faire capitalism, individual rights, limited government and republicanism," and opposed "statism, liberalism, tribalism, socialism, collectivism, internationalism, democracy, altruism, pull politics and the New World Order."

Soldiers publishing The Resister are highly critical of U.S. peacekeeping efforts. In a past issue of The Resister they editorialized: "The U.S. military has become a slave service for the wealth redistribution schemes of internationalists and gangs of weeping do-gooder mystics. One need simply note the circling of media carrion-eaters to predict in which Third World toilet these altruists will flush hundreds of millions of U.S. tax dollars and the lives of U.S. servicemen. Peacekeeping is a monumental fraud."

SIGN ME UP!!!

Sirs, I do not know where you are or what you are doing, But you can count on me for whatever you need. Free room and board at my place. Nice.

The thing is that the military is not just full of robots. They are people too. They are more often than not MORE American than the public. They have actually read the constitution they swear to defend and know the reasons why we must stay vigilant.

Thank you, It is reassuring that you are out there.

Originally posted by CaptainLJB

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
reply to post by CaptainLJB

 

Not to mention all that idiots nation-wide who MUST buy bottled water because ordinary tap water isn't Good Enough for them...

yea whats up with that. the only way i would buy a bottle of water. is if the store didn't sell soda's.
or i couldn't find a place that had a water fountain, or when the new water wars erupt.

whats sad is most people don't even know that the water that they are drinking comes from the same tap as yours and mine.

douh!

It's this new yuppie generation. Then when they end up broke they wonder why. Bottled water's the biggest scam in history. The profits they're making on it must be incalcuable. What's next, bottled Air?

Bottled air? ...sir, you may be on to something. Quart/Pint sized air bottles with the nose thingie that old people use - for those who are stuck in traffic...or at a bar - make the bottles pink-n-stuff for the ladies. Add scented air the following year for a boost in profit. ...now that they made aerosol'd alcohol and caffeinated products - the bottled air will be the next 'energy drink' fad. Why get your fix and bloated at the same time?

The only Civil 'War' we will have is over the products made in the USA vs China. Need a movement to buy USA made goods. DHS won't be able to touch crap.

reply to post by BIHOTZ


If you and any one else are interested, I did a little extra searching and found a weblog of the publication. It's just like the printed ones I read almost a decade ago. An actual copy of the full collection would be a great read. They went into some detail in quite a few issues.

The "New" Resister

reply to post by Leftist


i think they are preparing to start it. thats an important difference!

reply to post by KoolerKing


Another problem with humanity, not taking any responsibility for ones own actions, lets just pass the buck again.

Originally posted by BIHOTZ

The thing is that the military is not just full of robots. They are people too. They are more often than not MORE American than the public. They have actually read the constitution they swear to defend and know the reasons why we must stay vigilant.

Thank you, It is reassuring that you are out there.

More American than the public? Well, if that means more lobotomized and conditioned, then I would agree.
Soldiers aren't trained to Think, they're trained to Obey. Any military, any country.

The more Human ones are those who actually learn to think--usually After the fact. Remorse. Guilt. No wonder they end up so screwed up after serving. Those that see actual action, that is. Though I'm sure the majority learn to justify their actions, at least with the old "just following orders" line. I think the more shallower the conscience the farther one gets in the military. Otherwise there's a lot of deep-seated anger within.

So who would this "civil war" (Whatever the hell that means) be between? Rival Political party members? Another NorthVSouth? Different Races? Rich Vs. Poor?

It would be sort of a combination of all four until they came to their senses, and it wound up completely rich V. poor ala Communist Manifesto.

Of course, then at what line would Rich become Rich? These are questions I would want answers to.

EDIT: If the money becomes worthless, then wouldn't the "rich" become completely equal to everyone else? There would be squatters on the land of the "rich" and they would attempt to run them off by force.

You see, this would lead to a shutdown of communication, if it were to come about. The internet and wireless phone services would all be shut down, and if money were worthless then there would be no incentive for companies to continue attempting to attain profit. This would make it severely difficult to disseminate information, and Samizdat printing presses would be the only source of information.

For those who are not yet "reeducated":
www.infowars.com...
Brainwashing centers? Mind control camps?
Too hard to believe? Or just too uncomfortable...?
One "advantage" of being zombiefied is that you will never be able to know that you are...

reply to post by Anonymous404


There is no line in regards of rich vs poor.... it's a moral line, one that is formed in ones own mind.

Even if I had a 100 million dollars, I would still fight on the side of the poor to bring down the elite. Money doesn't make you happy, but not having it can most difinitely make you unhappy in the world where greed is the common denominator.

Socialism is back... and we will run over the elite like we've done before. Just have to be sure we get them all this time.

reply to post by flice


The problem is, around here they equate socialism with fascism and in turn with the NWO...

Then again, around here they also equate Atheists with devil-worshippers, rapists, and child-molesters.

It's no wonder I was framed and fired from my last job...

Thank you to all of you who are sensible and see the truth!

I find so many today who are swayed by the most impractical and paranoid ideas. Sadly, these ideas serve only to inspire fear for profit or impulsive panic for political loyalty. Afterall, fear is a powerful motivator. It is a divisive tool which blinds through delusion and short sightedness. The Nazi's thrived because of it, the Soviets too, along many other tyrannical regimes throughout history. Sadly, I find most of this deceit coming from those representing the extreme Right. They regurgitate manufactured versions of reality through distortion, 1/2 truths and even outright lies - always without credible or contextual evidence.

Take a break from infowars and stop listening to voices like Glenn Beck! When the noise stops, the anxiety dissipates and the heavy burden is lifted from your shoulders, look around and see the world as it is. Take advantage of your newfound internal peace & mental clarity and seek for the truth with an open mind. Do not take anyone at their word. Find the truth on your own. Take your time and pay close attention to the details.

“Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.” ~ Blaise Pascal

Originally posted by magma
And you are going to do what about it?

When push comes to shove...... You , like all the others will die fighting.
thats my point.

With that attitude, the US of A would have never been realized to begin with.

Do you feel that the "insergents" were outgunned, outnumbered, etc.?

Well, they sure did let the US of A know they weren't going to sit down and almost 10 years later, we are still at war with them. "Mission Accomplished"?

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

So let me ask you this...

If you are given a direct order to commit UnConstitutional actions against other Americans who are COMPLETE STRANGERS TO YOU, and if you don't do them you are told that you will lose your job, you won't be able to feed, clothe or shelter your family, and you are going to tell us that you, and the mayority of law enforcement officers will side with the people, COMPLETE STRANGERS, and not with feeding and clothing their families

When push comes to shoves do you side with keeping your family warm, fed, and secure, or helping COMPLETE STRANGERS even if they are Americans?...

Since XCathdra defends the unconstitutional actions of police against the occupy people on here on a daily basis....I would say the answer would be "keep my job"....."just doing my job", etc, etc.

Everyone expecting there to be a DHS announcing this. Wake up! This is not the first nor the last you'll hear this and everything points to it. The population vastly outnumbers the DHS and they know the military will side with the people. So there has to be miss direction at some point.

I'm afraid this informant seems very creditable. DHS is buying weapons like a country preparing for war. THAT is a fact. DRONES in the US? are people that stupid? I have no more information than any of you. But how medicated are some of u?

reply to post by CaptainLJB


Captain? of the good ship lollipop maybe..... Had you served in the military you would know most of them are our greatest Americans and the most patriotic. Do you have a clue what they give up, miss to serve their country? lol Robot's they are not.

But what do I know I only served 20 in the Marine Corps.

The LIBYAN army defected on a major scale knowing to be caught meant execution.

reply to post by JerryB08


I know when comrades are together in Any service, they act together and think together As One. The military employs brainwashing and simple patriotic trickery to convert their soldiers into Yes Men who blindly follow orders first (and Maybe think about them Afterwards). This is human nature and real-life reality (not like you see in the movies).

No, I'm not in the military but my father was a marine who fought in WWII at Okinawa and received the purple heart. He died in 97.

As far as I am concerned, it wouldn't be a civil uprising. It would be, if anything, a government uprising. The U.S. Government and DHS have gotten too big for their britches, forgotten their place, and fallen under the delusion that they are the bosses (And while, due to corruption, that is the way things are currently going, it is not the fact of the matter.)

So if there is a civil war, and the government tries to bite the hand that feeds (And owns) them, they will be smacked down into their rightful place and then abolished and reformed.

Plus, I have a feeling that at least 80% of military personnel hold the "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" part of the oath as more important than the "obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me" part..

I will throw my 2 cents in here. I am in Real Estate now and we had a contest for builders in which they win awards that are put in the paper. I won't be more specific.

However, in the group of judges that went around was a gentleman from the Bank of England (here in the US) and he was a retired Navy SEAL as well. I asked him when he thought the crash would happen. And to my surprise he came back with "February 2013"! I was a little surprised he had a timeframe already.

He said that they have it all planned, but the election would make the determination. He said if Obama wins they will take it down Feb. 2013 and be done with it. No questions. He said if someone else wins that they may postpone it for a period of time to see if the new administration can turn things around.

He said that it is the same basic issue as with Greece and others that if they curtail the spending and make strides toward reducing the debt, it could not happen. But, Obama has added close to $6 Trillion in new debt in 4 years and that cannot go on period. That is why if he is reelected, they plan to take the dollar down and our economy with it. It has to happen. Just like Greece is playing Russian roulette now, the world isn't going to keep supporting a failed system. We absolutely must turn the debt and deficit spending around.

Obama's health care law, and other future outlook is spending a whole lot more and we cannot afford it and TPTB will make sure they don't continue to support a failed approach. Think the collapse of Russia before they started exporting oil and gas and recovered.

So, I would highly recommend buying a few hundred pounds of rice and beans and other necessities to make sure your family has some protein and filler so they don't go hungry. You will have to do what your conscience and pocket book allow. If it does go down, then you will need to be self-sufficient for a period of time until stabilization occurs. In case of a civil war/revolution I don't know how long that will take. Living in Florida next to the ocean and on water, my fishing poles and tackle are all tuned up as well. I have plenty of home defenses and our area can be shut off at two critical choke points and the residents are prepared to do just that. I live in a rural area, but there are enough people to protect our own.

I would take seriously the need to eat during a period of utter disruption.

reply to post by spirit_horse


I would love to know this guy's name, because I'd bet money he is not a SEAL.

If you can prove he was a SEAL I'll listen to his story, until then he's just another loudmouth in my book.

A funny read and even funnier attempt to fear monger. If the people listed as sources knew what they were talking about they would not have made so many mistakes, like referring to the NDAA as an executive order (its part of the 2012 funding authorization bill for DoD operations and is a law from Congress, not an EO).

Correct...it was passed in Congress. Doesn't that make it even scarier knowing that there is almost zero political resistance to it?

As a member of Law Enforcement, as well as having family members in law enforcement, we have seen absolutely nothing directed towards law enforcement int terms of being prepared for a civil war.

Sure you have. They've just been calling it "preparedness against terror" and "civil unrest". All last year police forces nationwide engaged in ACTS OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM upon innocent civilians in peaceful assembly. This DOESN'T mean that ALL police officers did this...however the practice was certainly rampant.

Secondly to assume every single member of the military / Government / Law Enforcement at ALL levels of government would just receive their orders and act on them without question is naive. The actions being described in that fear monger piece leaves out several key elements, starting with the fact the President would need to label a state as being in a state of rebellion / insurrection to even have authority to issue orders to guard units.

Sweet Jesus, I hope you are right about the military/govt./and Law Enforcement not walking in goose-step upon command. I'm not so confident...but I sincerely hope that I am wrong and remain ignorant about the moral character of our police. I personally think that there are lots and lots of them who are more savage, brutal, corrupt, and worrisome than the criminals they chase. Again...I'm not saying I think this of ALL police...just lots and lots of them. However, you are incorrect upon only being possible in cases of rebellion/insurrection. That's what the CONSTITUTION says...but hey...since when the hell do we follow the Constitution? There have been numerous pieces of legislation, and executive orders signed which all provide for this occurring even in "national emergency"...whatever the hell that is.

Has anyone thought that maybe the article is meant to foster resentment towards the government / military / law enforcement?

Yeah...I would probably think it WAS just fear mongering if not for the DHS buying approx. 3 rounds of hollow point for every man, woman, and child in the country, the cops now using tanks and drones, the willingness so many cops displayed to use chemical weapons to subvert the constitutional rights of civilians in 2011,blackhawk helicopters conducting ops in L.A. and Chicago, and armed soldiers conducting "training excercises" in residential neighborhoods in MN w/ populations of only 7800 people. Given these circumstances...it quite frankly doesn't seem like idle fear mongering or punditry at all.

If people take a step back and read the article, and then think about what elements would be required for the government to exploit a situation and be successful, a different picture emerges.

Really? The way I remember it the whole damn country lost their mind on 9-11 and promptly deified firefighters, police, and the military as figures who were incapable of wrongdoing in any and all circumstances and anybody who thought Colin Powell was full of sh*&t and that we should NOT take ANY military action were "unpatriotic".

Its going to be citizens vs Federal government. Who in their right mind is going to take up arms against their neighbors in order to protect a federal government who have been spending citizens money like drunken yuppies?

The police, apparently. I seem to recall a whole lot of beatings, tear gas, pepper spray, and "less lethal" rounds being used against their "neighbors" who wanted to get corruption out of the government last year. I tell you what...convince the cops you work with to stand down the next time they are ordered to subvert the Constitutional right to assemble peacefully and petition the government for a redress of grievances and I'll believe you.

Note that unlike other debates you and I have had....I sincerely, hope you prove me dead wrong about this one. In fact...I HOPE that a couple years down the road I am so off base as to seem almost a lunatic.

You would think that if this REALLY disturbed the cops you would have seen some Chiefs of Police come out and condemn the actions of the Oakland cops, the pepper spraying of Dorli Rainey, or that Bologna clown in NY and call for those offending officer's to be prosecuted as the criminals and terrorists they are. Again...not ALL cops...just those who abuse authority.

How come these actions haven't received any notable peer criticism? Slaps on the wrist don't count...terrorists are supposed to go to Gitmo, right?