See I have been trained in the art of combustion,
I can teach you how to make your exhaust play tunes while it pollutes.
What would you want contrails to play as you fly away.
So take your air bypass engines play us a song,
we can all hum along to.

My grandfather was Army Air Core (WW2)
My dad was Air Force(Korea)
My race car driver was Air Force mech.(Vietnam)
But when it came to making engines sing and what would come out the back
they all would defer to me.

Originally posted by Uncinus

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I am going to go out,
fire up the barbeque,
release some cancer causing fumes and enjoy my dinner.
No forms of man made clouds are good for us,
my point is some people claim theirs is less dangerous then others.

If a jet WITH a contrail has the exact same exhaust as a jet WITHOUT a contrail, then why is a contrail more dangerous than the invisible exhaust?

And don't play games, just tell them the truth,
The most pollution is during take off with max load, max acceleration.
The rest is just controlling gravity or air resistance.
So what they don't see, may be the most harmful.
Just like on TV,
when we watch a race with an alcohol fire we can't see,
but the crew is burned.

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
And don't play games, just tell them the truth,
The most pollution is during take off with max load, max acceleration.
The rest is just controlling gravity or air resistance.
So what they don't see, may be the most harmful.

Yep - but chemtrail believers think otherwise - apparently for them it is only dangerous when you can see the water content.

In the past we would look up in the sky
Take pride in our military planes,
marvel at the ones that could take us,
the common man to where ever we wanted to go.
But then one day they were used against us on 911
Then stories of shoe bombers, no one is safe.
Now, when we look up,
all we see is a plane with an agenda,
because that is what the news tells us almost every day.
So don’t blame the common man, I would look at the places that airlines use to advertise with,
that now tell us all, it is nothing but danger.

Ah yes.. let's spray chemicals in a figure 8 because it's more effective, over.. nowhere-land. That will reduce the population for sure!

Couldn't be a plane in a holding pattern.. nope.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
And don't play games, just tell them the truth,
The most pollution is during take off with max load, max acceleration.
The rest is just controlling gravity or air resistance.
So what they don't see, may be the most harmful.

Yep - but chemtrail believers think otherwise - apparently for them it is only dangerous when you can see the water content.

Hi Gaul

I drove my vehicle again this week,
somehow in someway I left my mark.
It was just a different transportation highway.
Will air travel ever be safe again or will we all be treated like
we are on a prison transport bus for the rest of our life's?

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Will air travel ever be safe again or will we all be treated like
we are on a prison transport bus for the rest of our life's?

When is the time when you think air travel was safer in some form that it is now????

See every time I drop someone off at an airline terminal,
I feel like I am part of that 1960 series TV show
The Fugitive.
Then when I come home,
and watch the news it is some
Payton Place episode at the airport on the news.
I want to look up and believe airplanes are safe,
but all I see is TSA threats OMG stuff everyday.

Because again we should look at the truth.
Now when I look up,
I see a plane full of people that were strip searched,
only allowed 3 ounces of their favorite stuff.
Had to sign away their rights,
just to have the privilege to make white lines in the sky.

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Because again we should look at the truth.
Now when I look up,
I see a plane full of people that were strip searched,
only allowed 3 ounces of their favorite stuff.
Had to sign away their rights,
just to have the privilege to make white lines in the sky.

No one wants to believe that,
It does sound better that they are spraying us with chemicals.
I even have to admit that.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters

What you have in the video, however, is merely a plane in a holding pattern waiting to land. It's not spraying anything, because contrails aren't sprayed, they are formed, but you'd have to have spent 15 seconds learning that, so I won't fault you for not having a clue about what you are talking about.... at all...

Hey, haven't you heard? Phish sucks. And it's strange but I guess it turns out they've sucked all along

I hve not read the entire thread, so please excuse me if someone else has posted about this.

I live in the Central Coast area of California. A week ago this last Monday I awoke to a sky already littered with chem trails. Every hour I went outside only to find jets flying in tandem spraying trails. I called someone in a nearby area and it was confirmed there was a grid pattern being sprayed. Where i was, I can say with reasonable accuracy that the number of jets in the sky far overloaded the "normal" amount of jet traffic. The amount of trails far over loaded anything I have seen in my six years at this vantage point. After they were done, a white haze settled int valley, people started to call in sick, the haze lasted several days. I know there are a few on ATS that constantly try to debunk chemtrail conversation, but to my mind, they can get stuffed like a Thanksgiving Turkey. I KNOW WHAT I SEE.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
And don't play games, just tell them the truth,
The most pollution is during take off with max load, max acceleration.
The rest is just controlling gravity or air resistance.
So what they don't see, may be the most harmful.

Yep - but chemtrail believers think otherwise - apparently for them it is only dangerous when you can see the water content.

When you live at the beach in California, where is the western airport from which they perform the east/west spraying? Unless they take a "hard turn" which they do. You are a little too dismissive to be taken seriously. If you want to join a discussion, ya might want to hang your smirk at the door.

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Because again we should look at the truth.
Now when I look up,
I see a plane full of people that were strip searched,
only allowed 3 ounces of their favorite stuff.
Had to sign away their rights,
just to have the privilege to make white lines in the sky.

No one wants to believe that,
It does sound better that they are spraying us with chemicals.
I even have to admit that.

Yes. And in order to fly on that plane they did all of that and then the plane sprays. Not that I'm convinced passenger jets spray, but the airlines ARE part od the USA defense....hense they could be spraying. But to my mind, I think it's mercs that spray.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Will air travel ever be safe again or will we all be treated like
we are on a prison transport bus for the rest of our life's?

When is the time when you think air travel was safer in some form that it is now????

Good question. Since I have discovered that all American airlines are part of (drafted into?) National Defense
when was it ever safe?? Part of waking up is tracing the illusion back to the beginning. Oh? Did you kids' school quit teaching History? Staying on point with the thread: I vote: yes, domestic/"commercial"/military/mercenary jets have been spraying boogars (too avoid an ATS ban) on us for years. OK, want some real debate? u2u me.
Love to you all.