You might wanna check your sources on that. Honestly I barely even paid attention to it last year and only know an abstract understanding of the specific details of the whole thing, but glancing over wikipedia it says MOX only went into use there at the end of 2010 in only one of the 4 reactors.

But I know history and how environmentalists overstate everything. The year before I wasted endless hours debating the BP ordeal. Everyday the top flagged threads were OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL. It gets old: important issue we might actually do something about get buried under doomongering end of days threads. Isn't this a conspiracy website? I didn't even have to open the site here last year to know its was all JAPAN JAPAN JAPAN JAPAN. It's actually a reason I didnt open the site for a long time last year.

ATS transformed into an environmentalist doomsday propaganda apparatus, screaming mass hysteria about things that the average reader has little hope to do anything about, and when someone does try to start threads about ways to help the victims or other long term solutions we can try to rally behind those threads get ignored and shrugged off.

I dont understand the mentality where people would want to obsess about dire issues yet have very little interest in possible solutions, but I'll bet there's some categories in the DSM to define these pathologies.

And the environmentalist 'movement' itself has got to be evil: decry all forms of mass-energy spreading mass guilt-mongering hysteria (that literally drives some people to suicide) without providing actual solutions which wont destroy economic progress and therefore also hurt lives.

If the major environmentalist groups real agenda was saving the environment they'd all be rallying to do whatever it takes to speed up Gen IV Nuke plant development to actually clean up the worlds vast 'waste' stockpiles while at the same making coal / oil technologies obsolete enabling both electric cars and the hydrogen economy needed to be able to go that route. They'd also be pushing industrial hemp for a number of other reasons.

Yet they do neither. Sorry, but solar and wind aren't going to save the world because even if coating the earth wasn't needed (I'd call that pollution), and wind didn't actually cause global warming and kill birds, they can't clean up the waste stockpiles or enable a hydrogen economy while its going to take vastly more electricity production than we currently have to replace gas powered cars with all electric.

Anyone find it interesting that the disaster at Chernobyl was also reactor number 4? I know its just coincidence and all of the reactors at fukushima are now failing but interesting none the less.

Three mile island was reactor #2 but the problem started at 4 o'clock.

Originally posted by jonnywhite
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Yes, I'm against MOX fuel. And yes they shouldn't have built the nuclear plants in japan on faults and too close to the shore. But think... now the nuclear plants are being shutdown. Is this an overreaction? Probably, but then again, if hte companies can't behave responsibly then they shouldn't be allowed to build these facilities. On the other hand, importing natural gas has its own vices.
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I'll insert my standard response to such boxy thinking: What about the free energy devices of Nathan Stubblefield, Nikola Tesla, Viktor Schauberger, Edwin V. Gray, Stanley Meyer, and Daniel Dingell? There are others whose names escape me since I finished my research some time ago after having come to the conclusion that humanity doesn't have free energy because humanity will misuse free energy, due to humanity's gullibility and penchant for responsibility-shifting.

The truth is: WE DON'T NEED TO BURN ANYTHING ANYMORE.

I'm trying to do the math:

So 7 millionths of a gram is enough to kill a person? I have no clue, but that is actually 1KG (2.2lbs) divided by 7 billion.

Does anyone know exactly how much of this MOX escaped, and what the MOX formula was to try and figure out what the actual Pu content of their MOX fuel was? I'll bet the Japanese government doesn't know specifics. Just because some huge facility has explosions and fires doesn't mean all of its contents are now going to be evenly distributed throughout the earths human population.


Seriosuly people: You actually believe that humans have thousands of buildings that each one alone is capable of causing global extinction of the species if they catch fire? Seems very improbable... since even if biowarfare facilities burnt down there's a good chance the pathogens would die.

While I don't know specifics apparently there has been plenty of percieved mismanagement of the crisis. If that single facility had any chance whatsoever of causing total global devastation you think they would leave any room for chance?

I think that to claim there are thousands of civilian run facilities that each pose such a threat would be akin to claiming the military has built thousands of bombs each of which having the individual capability of destroying the entire planet.

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Everyone said the same exact thing about Deepwater Horizon. Funny thing is I live in Tampa, FL and nothing has changed.

I wouldn't say nothing has changed in the Gulf but anyway, you can't compare Deepwater Horizon to Fukushima IMO, the Gulf disaster was a "local" event, the oil constricted to the water and land. Fukushima is way worse, and if reactor #4 collapses(which it's pretty likely that it could) it will be a very bad "global" event as the radiation is not bound to the ground. Over 1000 spent fuel rods exploding and being uncontained for at least 50 years... yeah, everything will be okay...

Effects are not always noticeable right away, long term damage is what you'll see, same thing goes for the Gulf. I'm not saying the world will end or that all life will die off, life always finds a way to go on, but this has the capability of changing the world "as we know it".

Looks like its time to move to the south boys and girls

Japan is the blame to begin with for building a nuclear plant in earthquake zone to begin with. For all their schooling they are morons and all should commit, Harri Karri. I'll chop of their heads for them.

This reminds me of when I was at the Waste Dump and they were digging a big hole in the ground. I ask what is the hole for, Oh!, that is going to be the lake. Lake, I said, you can't put a lake next to a trash dump. So they moved it across the street, you morons can't put a lake across from the trash dump, I didn't need to go to college to figure this out it's only common sense, but these guys were engineers. I think they got on the wrong train, but they never built the lake, Duh!.

Japan had a bad ideal again, just like their divine wind and their rule of the world, they need something divine now, the whole world does, because of these Morons.