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reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 10:06 AM by Iconic
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So you're saying we HAVEN'T used half the oil supply, even looking at how much oil we use for every little thing? Besides, even if it hasn't peaked, it will.

Originally posted by Danbones
peak oil, the way Mr rupert has portrayed it has been shown to be a PTB scam
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At least give me a link to something
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reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 10:17 AM by Danbones
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Sure Ike
video.google.ca...#

Why is Obama Lying About US Oil Reserves?...“With only 2% of the world’s oil reserves, we can’t just drill our way to lower gas prices,” President Barack Obama said in his weekly address March 10. “Not when we consume 20% of the world’s oil.”

The claim is, if not blatantly false, at best grossly misleading. If the President didn’t know this, some advisors should be dismissed. If he did, he needs to accept the blame and formally correct it.
As Investors Business Daily explained,

… the figure Obama uses—proved oil reserves—vastly undercounts how much oil the U.S. actually contains. In fact, far from being oil-poor, the country is awash in vast quantities—enough to meet all the country’s oil needs for hundreds of years.

oilprice.com...

hope this provides some inference into mr rupert's aganda

eta
the myth of peakoil and the wars the US and britian have started in oil zones are the reason that Venezuala pays 17 cents a gallon and you don't
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reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 12:15 PM by epsilon69
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It doesn't matter how much oil the U.S has. What matters is how much we can economically extract. If it takes a barrel to produce a barrel then there is no point. It maybe hard for some people on this website to believe, as i have noticed, that peak oil is actually not a PTB scam but a reality that will have a huge effect on everyone's life. Here are the facts:

-World oil discoveries peaked in 1960, since then we have been finding less and less oil each year

-Since 2005 world production of oil has flat lined; must be hard for the elite to stop every rogue nation from producing all this abundant oil?

-World net exports of oil have been decreasing, dramatically. Meaning there is less oil each year for importers like the U.S to buy.

-All finite resource's production rates follow a bell curve, now if you claim that oil isn't finite but infinitely being produced in the Earth's crust then I would ask that you provide some evidence for this extraordinary claim.

- U.S oil production peaked in 1970 exactly when M. King Hubbert predicted it would based off of past U.S oil discoveries and extraction rates. This peaking led to the oil crisis' of the 1970's, where the U.S for the first time realized the importance of controlling world oil supplies.

I really hope you are wrong about peak oil being a fraud for one reason. That is if oil isn't finite and we can use as much of it as we please, then at an energy growth rate of 2.3% each year (which is below the average of 2.9% for the U.S) the temperature of the Earth is just over 400 years will reach boiling point. This temperature increase isn't because of global warming (which i don't buy into) but because of thermodynamics. Every type of energy breaks down into less and less usable forms, the least usable being heat which everything eventually breaks down to.

So if you are right and peak oil is a fraud, then we can continue our happy pursuit of infinite growth but someday will find it getting a little hot here on Earth. Damn you laws of thermodynamics!


reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 03:46 PM by Danbones
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the oil companies bought up the refineries in the US in the seventies and have built none since
the things you talk of are created to create an excuse
oil men like bush and cheney went in an burnt all the wells in Iraq
( it came out recently they were burnt by special forces not Iraqis, as I have said all along)
because peak oil is a sham like global warming.

btw the Iraqi oil that was supposed to pay for that war goes to Israel by pipe and then from there to china, and then from there to the US.
at vastly inflated prices
go figure
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reply posted on 30-4-2012 @ 06:17 PM by wrdwzrd
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For sure, I heard about his financial situation and that most definitely sucks. I guess my only reservation is when people tell you the world is ending and then want to sell you a book about it. He's not the only person that does that so I don't want to make the guy out to be a fake or anything. But yeah, he needs the money so I'm not going to judge him too much.
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