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Of course there are animals that will mate with the same sex occasionally but that is pure sexual drive and nothing else. I'm not saying that homosexuals do it just for sex, im saying its not natural and never will be.
Originally posted by subfab
it appears to me that the speaker was trying to show how religion can be used as a weapon by a bully. dan savage is right, if one part of the bible is true then it all has to be true. if one part is false then the rest comes into question. picking and choosing what you believe from the bible can be hazardous.
-subfab
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
it cuts like a double edged sword.
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by subfab
it appears to me that the speaker was trying to show how religion can be used as a weapon by a bully. dan savage is right, if one part of the bible is true then it all has to be true. if one part is false then the rest comes into question. picking and choosing what you believe from the bible can be hazardous.
-subfab
I'm not sure if you actually really mean that. Why do you think it is the case or why attitudes in place over 2,000 years ago should not be challenged - constantly? Whatever fundamentalist Christians may say, the Bible is a work by man, as are the works of the other faiths and they are informed by the politics and mood of the times. Does that alter the message of the New Testament, or the broad concept of the other major works? I don't know. I'm not up for stoning anyone, but I do believe that to treat others how you would like them to treat you is still a fairly good way to live your life.
By the way, if you take your stance as 'gospel', then the American Constitution is invalid, otherwise it wouldn't have needed any amendments.
Originally posted by subfab
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by subfab
it appears to me that the speaker was trying to show how religion can be used as a weapon by a bully. dan savage is right, if one part of the bible is true then it all has to be true. if one part is false then the rest comes into question. picking and choosing what you believe from the bible can be hazardous.
-subfab
I'm not sure if you actually really mean that. Why do you think it is the case or why attitudes in place over 2,000 years ago should not be challenged - constantly? Whatever fundamentalist Christians may say, the Bible is a work by man, as are the works of the other faiths and they are informed by the politics and mood of the times. Does that alter the message of the New Testament, or the broad concept of the other major works? I don't know. I'm not up for stoning anyone, but I do believe that to treat others how you would like them to treat you is still a fairly good way to live your life.
By the way, if you take your stance as 'gospel', then the American Constitution is invalid, otherwise it wouldn't have needed any amendments.
i don't follow what you are saying.
i agree the bible is a work by man. a work influenced by the politics of the day.
i see the point of the speaker in the video, dan savage, where people are picking and choosing which sections of the bible to follow. i think you and i are on the same page on this topic.
either follow all the bible as a work from God or not. either God is right or he messed up.
the bible says don't put up a christmas tree. but thousands of christians do every year. it's just another example of the "picking and choosing" of what to follow in the bible.
Jeremiah 10:2-5
King James Version (KJV)
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
-subfab
Originally posted by ChristianJihad
reply to post by Stormdancer777
I was raised Christian, never in my 62 years did I hear homosexuality as a topic during a sermon, I have gone to many churches, I didn't know what homosexuality was until I was in my twenties.
It took you 20 years to get around to actually reading a bible ?
Originally posted by longjohnbritches
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Hi sto,
You are a refreshing breath of air. After saying that and sending you some flower to your left. I hope you are a goil LOL
The best ljb
Originally posted by RandomEsotericScreenname
reply to post by Nickldd92
Of course there are animals that will mate with the same sex occasionally but that is pure sexual drive and nothing else. I'm not saying that homosexuals do it just for sex, im saying its not natural and never will be.
Men having sex with men is sexual drive which is natural. Men loving other men is love, which is natural too.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by ChristianJihad
reply to post by Stormdancer777
I was raised Christian, never in my 62 years did I hear homosexuality as a topic during a sermon, I have gone to many churches, I didn't know what homosexuality was until I was in my twenties.
It took you 20 years to get around to actually reading a bible ?
I said I never heard gay issues preached in the church, and I didn't know what homosexuality was until I saw it talked about on the Donahue show
It just wasn't the issue it is today,
Guess I was sheltered.
I was never taught to hate in the church I went to.
People can't force others to accept a life style,
Up until you were twenty did you happen to eat anything that contained blood ? If you did then I'm sorry to tell you that was the very worst crime against your god with a penalty of being cut off from it go to jail do not pass go and all that.
Originally posted by RandomEsotericScreenname
reply to post by Stormdancer777
People can't force others to accept a life style,
Indeed, so why are christians interfering with gay peoples' lifestyles again?
Breathe of fresh air my a...edit on 29-4-2012 by RandomEsotericScreenname because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by RandomEsotericScreenname
reply to post by Nickldd92
Of course there are animals that will mate with the same sex occasionally but that is pure sexual drive and nothing else. I'm not saying that homosexuals do it just for sex, im saying its not natural and never will be.
Men having sex with men is sexual drive which is natural. Men loving other men is love, which is natural too.
I think the on topic aspect here is Gay and Proud not DUMB and LOUD