Fed takeover of the roadways? US ban on cellphone use while driving sought., page 5


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reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 11:05 PM by wutz4tom
reply to post by FortAnthem



Cell phone use by drivers is extremely careless.
If you choose to not where your seat belt you are putting yourself in harms way. If you talk on the phone you endanger everyone on the road including children riding as passengers..

Are these calls so important that its worth endangering others? I'll bet 90% or better could have been postponed
without causing a problem..(except emergency vehicles etc).
Where is common sense these days? It appears it has disappeared along with our savings...
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reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 11:15 PM by bo12au
reply to post by FortAnthem



This is rather alarming. Who appointed this yahoo,,and what happened to States rights protected by the constitution? Well, he is from Illinois, Barry's home state. Wikipedia has that in 2005 he voted against extending the patrot act, and he quotes "opposed extending it's intrusive police powers". His son also holds a billet
Text On January 21, 2012, LaHood's son, Sam LaHood, was detained by the Egyptian government and not allowed to leave the country as part of a politically charged criminal investigation by the Egyptian government into the activities of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) monitoring local elections in Egypt. LaHood's son is the Egypt director of the International Republican Institute. The Egyptian government has detained twelve NGO representatives from leaving Egypt. [26]

On February 5, 2012, Egyptian authorities charged LaHood's son and 42 other individuals with "spending money from organizations that were operating in Egypt without a license." Nineteen Americans are part of the 42 charged. The U.S. government has made it clear that $1.5 billion in U.S. aid to Egypt could be withheld if the investigation is not finished quickly. Faiza Abu Naga, Egypt's Minister of International Cooperation, is seen as the person pushing the investigation forward. [27][28]
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reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 11:24 PM by MiddleClassWarrior
reply to post by bo12au





This is rather alarming. Who appointed this yahoo,,and what happened to States rights protected by the constitution?


Yeah, let's get rid of all Federeal regulations.

They are infringing on our freedoms!!!!

God Bless the Marxist radical revolutionaries!!!!


reply posted on 27-4-2012 @ 11:46 PM by MiddleClassWarrior
reply to post by neo96





Regulation=Big Government Fascist totalitarianism


Yes!!! Let's get rid of all the pesky regulations on car and workplace safety!!!!!

GOD DAMN FASCISTS!!!!!!!


reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 07:25 AM by butcherguy
Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by butcherguy
Originally posted by links234
reply to
post by FortAnthem



You don't seem to understand the federal system of government. Let me try and explain;

1) Federal government outlaws texting while driving.
2) States pass laws to comply with federal law.
3) States that don't pass laws to comply with federal law have federal funds withheld.
4) The end.

Ultimately, the federal government enforces laws like these through funding. They don't make state troopers and
local sheriff's start pulling people over. The FBI aren't going to pull you over for traffic violations anytime soon either.

This is how the federal government makes states obey federal laws. Not a single state governor wants to stop taking money from the federal government.

This is exactly how the federal government mandated a nationwide 55 mph speed limit back when the energy crisis happened in the 1970's (I think that's when it happened).
I agree with FortAnthem in that it isn't the way things should work, but that is how they did it.
edit on 27-4-2012 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)


*sigh*

Not correct at all. Wow.

There is no federal law for a 55 mph speed limit. There is no federal seat-belt law mandating the USE of seatbelts, except for those in rigs who are conducting commerce and are subject to the commerce clause. There is no federal 21 drinking age. And so on.

As has been stated above. The federal government subsidizes, (bribes or blackmails) the states into making these laws. If they do not comply the FEDS withhold money from the states (which is ironic because the money belongs to the states and the residents of those states to begin with). So, the states comply so they can get the money. Please, at least do a google search next time.
hmmm....
Wow. I didn't say that there is any federal law for a 55 mph speed limit.
I said that the federal government mandated it. The way that they accomplished it was to threaten federal funding to states that did not pass laws establishing a 55 mph speed limit. Every state in the union complied with the federal governments wishes.


Please, at least do a google search next time.

Please, at least read my post next time.


reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 09:43 AM by Bakatono
Originally posted by butcherguy
Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by butcherguy
Originally posted by links234
reply to
post by FortAnthem



You don't seem to understand the federal system of government. Let me try and explain;

1) Federal government outlaws texting while driving.
2) States pass laws to comply with federal law.
3) States that don't pass laws to comply with federal law have federal funds withheld.
4) The end.

Ultimately, the federal government enforces laws like these through funding. They don't make state troopers and
local sheriff's start pulling people over. The FBI aren't going to pull you over for traffic violations anytime soon either.

This is how the federal government makes states obey federal laws. Not a single state governor wants to stop taking money from the federal government.

This is exactly how the federal government mandated a nationwide 55 mph speed limit back when the energy crisis happened in the 1970's (I think that's when it happened).
I agree with FortAnthem in that it isn't the way things should work, but that is how they did it.
edit on 27-4-2012 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)


*sigh*

Not correct at all. Wow.

There is no federal law for a 55 mph speed limit. There is no federal seat-belt law mandating the USE of seatbelts, except for those in rigs who are conducting commerce and are subject to the commerce clause. There is no federal 21 drinking age. And so on.

As has been stated above. The federal government subsidizes, (bribes or blackmails) the states into making these laws. If they do not comply the FEDS withhold money from the states (which is ironic because the money belongs to the states and the residents of those states to begin with). So, the states comply so they can get the money. Please, at least do a google search next time.
hmmm....
Wow. I didn't say that there is any federal law for a 55 mph speed limit.
I said that the federal government mandated it. The way that they accomplished it was to threaten federal funding to states that did not pass laws establishing a 55 mph speed limit. Every state in the union complied with the federal governments wishes.


Please, at least do a google search next time.

Please, at least read my post next time.


I did read your post and you were echoing the post of the other poster who was way wrong. You stated that they mandated it, true, but you stated it in such a way that a normal person would construe your meaning to be that you agreed with the prior poster and it was a law (as he stated in bullet #1).

So, I am glad you have clarified your understanding and that it is, in fact, federal blackmail of the states, or bribery, whichever you choose. They haven't passed a law but threatened to withhold money. Either way, it is corrupt.


reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 10:02 AM by butcherguy
reply to post by Bakatono




So, I am glad you have clarified your understanding and that it is, in fact, federal blackmail of the states, or bribery, whichever you choose. They haven't passed a law but threatened to withhold money. Either way, it is corrupt.

Sorry that I wasn't clear in my post.
I am not sure what it amounts to bribery or blackmail. The individual states have become accustomed to receiving their federal 'milk'. They look at it as if they can't survive without it.

I always thought that the governments that I receive the biggest bang for my tax dollar are the local ones. They take away the trash, provide water and sewer services. There are federal dollars going to those municipal governments though. I feel that the people can manage the local issues with local government a lot better than adding state and federal bureaucracies on top of them.

I hate to be pessimistic about things, but I don't foresee any changes in how things work. I think things are going to get worse.


reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 12:01 PM by smokingmonkey
reply to post by FortAnthem



I don't see anything in this law about hands free cell phone use. What are the stats on hands free vs handheld? This is another power grab by the federal control freaks. What about cops on cell phones? Sorry, if it's not safe for citizens it's even less safe for law enforcement to use a cell phone when they may be trying to navigate a stressful situation, and if they aren't in the middle of a situation, they don't need to be on the phone any more than the rest of us.

There are more than enough laws are on the books to cover cell phone use while driving. For those who are genuinely concerned about safety, and if you think your states laws are too lax, talk to your state rep. The feds do not need to be looking over everyone's shoulder when they drive, remember the slippery slope, we are fast sliding down it into 1984.
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