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Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by notquiteright
reply to post by smithjustinb
If Eve knew no difference between good and evil, then how could she be held accountable for trusting Satan? Makes no sense. Fables and fairy tales.
Fables and fairy tales with a real message. (like most fables and fairy tales.)
In the book, God "said" don't eat it, but she did. It wasn't that she trusted Satan, it was and continues to be that she didn't trust God. Henceforth, judgement. That's what we are accountable for. It's not a punishment. All is one and creation and creator are that. To not trust our creator (circumstances leading to life) is to not trust ourselves. That is what is damaging here, and that is where the mental turmoil is.
Originally posted by notquiteright
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by notquiteright
reply to post by smithjustinb
If Eve knew no difference between good and evil, then how could she be held accountable for trusting Satan? Makes no sense. Fables and fairy tales.
Fables and fairy tales with a real message. (like most fables and fairy tales.)
In the book, God "said" don't eat it, but she did. It wasn't that she trusted Satan, it was and continues to be that she didn't trust God. Henceforth, judgement. That's what we are accountable for. It's not a punishment. All is one and creation and creator are that. To not trust our creator (circumstances leading to life) is to not trust ourselves. That is what is damaging here, and that is where the mental turmoil is.
Still, god may have said don't eat it, but she does not know right from wrong.
Originally posted by DuecesxGeneral
reply to post by smithjustinb
The tree was not important about the story but the act of defying God while actually seeing him and knowing, and having a direct command was important. Shaitan (satan) is a deceiver, so we must turn our ears away.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
yet im the fool..are you f'in serious..you bible thumpers are the most close-minded, one way thinking, hateful, bigoted people on the planet...and i'm the fool
Dogs know about God. Cats know about God.edit on 26-4-2012 by alkesh because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by alkesh
yet im the fool..are f'in serious..you bible thumpers are the most close-minded, one way thinking, hateful, bigoted people on the planet...and i'm the fool
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Dogs know about God. Cats know about God.
Originally posted by BioSafe
reply to post by smithjustinb
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Got it.
I like your premise. In this case I am going to GUT MY BOSS LIKE A FISH. I just wish the judge and jury felt the same as you do. Maybe I will use your theory in my defense.
I get what you are saying. It will take a few minute to wrap my head around it though
Nice job with the deep think
Originally posted by alkesh
I am dumbfounded by people who believe in a book that was written in the bronze age by people that KNEW the earth was flat and KNEW the earth was the center of the universe. So they must KNOW how the universe and everything in it came to be.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
The question is, how much longer are we going to be blind to the glory of our existence? How much longer are we going to be in turmoil wiithin ourselves? When will there be peace? When we learn to accept this... all of it.
Originally posted by alkesh
reply to post by smithjustinb
very little wisdom offered in the bible..not anything anyone with lick of common sense or reason couldn't figure out on their own.. the bible is a fear-mongers wet dream... it's all fire and brimstone and how its okay to beat your wives and slaves
Trust me, God, the almighty creator, does not create evil
Originally posted by Hecate666
Can someone explain how an omnipotent and omniscient being can not have foreseen that one of only two of its creations would fall for the apple trick?
Does your god know or doesn't he?
If he did, he can't blame eve, as he could have foreseen what she would be doing and if he didn't, he is not able to know everything and hence he/she/it is fallible.
I am serious, could a christian elaborate please?
Oh yes and I don't want to hear that it was a test, as explained above it would have been a cruel joke to play on an innocent being with no life experience.
Sorry it's all complete cotswallop.
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by smithjustinb
The question is, how much longer are we going to be blind to the glory of our existence? How much longer are we going to be in turmoil wiithin ourselves? When will there be peace? When we learn to accept this... all of it.
According to the Bible, we won't be living in peace until evil (Satan and his angels) are removed from the earth and sent to the Abyss.
So, I'd say there won't be enough people to accept this until they see it or experience it first hand.
Hoping for peace on this earth, as we know it, is pointless. The Bible makes that clear.
Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by smithjustinb
Trust me, God, the almighty creator, does not create evil
Sigh.....
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV)
The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.”
As I have stated many times, Satan/Lucifer/Devil is not the Ultimate Author of Evil. The only Evil exists in the Hearts of Human Beings.
Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by smithjustinb
No, it's not all good, and I think you yourself are supporting satans lies with this thread.
What's wrong with you?
You think cop killers are good? You think islamic extremist lopping off heads are good? You think war is good? You think SATAN IS GOOD??