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reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 03:00 PM by headorheart
reply to post by FenderWolf



Not everyone here believes 9/11 was an inside job and unfortunately for your wants your parents my never believe that either. If this is something you really want to debate with them, I would pull up the evidence that makes you believe that most that 9/11 was an inside job. When first sharing this knowledge with them, do not pull up the most scientific evident. Pull up the simple things that make people start questioning the OS. If the simple things make their minds wander, they will be able to do their own research and formulate their own opinions of what really happened that day. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, though and they may listen, research, and still believe what they believe.



reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 03:09 PM by hooper
reply to post by FenderWolf



I, like all of you, fully believe 9/11 was an inside job. I have talked it to death with my parents, at least everything I know and they think im full of it. What is some sure fire way I can convince them?


Exactly how is it that they respond to you? I can't imagine that they just blurt out "you're full of it". Did you ever consider that they may be correct? Do you think they are too dumb to understand simple evidence? If not then you must consider the possibility that what you are presenting may not be true.


reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 03:15 PM by DIDtm
reply to post by FenderWolf



Just say this.

2 planes.
Hit 2 buildings.
3 buildings fell down.

Can you explain that? When they can't....because no one can. Not even NIST....then move onto the other parts of your argument.

Make them give you answers on the topic, that do not have answers.


reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 03:23 PM by Sahabi
reply to post by abeverage


I agree!!!

WTC Tower #7 is the most simplistic and telling point of the entire 9/11 conspiracy.

After that quick and easy proof, try the documentaries "Fahrenheit 911" and "Loose Change".

Peace.


reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 05:43 PM by Sahabi
reply to post by DrEugeneFixer



Firefighters For 911 Truth has dedicated an entire page with evidence illustrating that WTC #7 was a result of controlled-demolition.

The WTC #7 conspiracy page on Wikipedia says this:

In 2009 a paper by nine scientists described their discovery and chemical and physical analysis of small "red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center," which were collected at four separate sites. Such chips "have apparently not been discussed in previously published reports. It is worth emphasizing that one sample was collected about ten minutes after the collapse of the second Tower, so it cannot possibly have been contaminated by clean-up operations." "We conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material." Others have analyzed 9/11 dust samples and reached similar but more extensive conclusions.




P.S.
English is not my only language. I'm sorry. I wrote the word "nothing" but in my mind I was thinking "no plane". The amount of debris that struck Tower 7 and the fire could not cause a building to implode on its own footprint at near free-fall speed.

Continue on with the personal attacks, or acknowledge what I am discussing. Please talk to me with respect, I find it more pleasant. We're both humans here, part of the same mankind family.

Peace.


reply posted on 25-4-2012 @ 08:06 PM by IpsissimusMagus
First, you can not force someone to be objective or convince someone of something they do not wish to discuss. You should only engage people who are willing to openly discuss this topic with you. You are better off not discussing this topic with people who are not ready or willing to review the evidence with an open mind.

You should research it yourself thoroughly also. As to not add to the confusion by stating too many of the different theories or trying to explain unverified evidence. It's always a good method to explain and expose the possible motives for a suspect to commit such a crime.

Explain some of the details that happened before 9/11. Explain the origins and the connections between the CIA, Bin Laden, Saddam Huessien, Al Qaeda, Suadi Arabia, the Bush family, Larry Silverstein, PNAC, NWO, WTC insurance policy and asbestos problem, "put options" by banks in the stock market on airlines.

There are many ways you can approach the events of 9/11. But it makes no difference if you don't explain why this might have happened. You need to show some history and explain a motive. Explain what a false flag event is. Discuss Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oaklahoma City, Iran/Contra affair, first Iraq war, Gore/Bush elections.

It's all relevant material. It really takes a lot to open someones eyes. Explore the subjects of controlling the masses by the media and marketing. The creation of the Federal Reserve, the Great Depression, the true history of WW1 and WW2. The history behind the war monger Bankers, capitalism and communism.

You really need to take your time and discuss the other aspects of politics and history to get them to open up their mind to idea that they might want to take a second look at the evidence from 9/11. Most of all it's probably best to not overwhelm anybody with too much at once. It will take time and many discussions. Eventually they may be open minded to exploring the other theories and re-examining the evidence.

I will post a few videos that might help you. I recommend you watch them by yourself first and take notes of key points you think are important. These videos are very long and not everybody can sit through a 5 hour video.

This video is a starter to the NWO



This video details the events of 9/11 and much more



This video shows the way big corporations and the government has tried to control and guide society


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