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“People’s Rights Amendment” is simple and straightforward. It would make clear that all corporate entities - for-profit and non-profit alike - are not people with constitutional rights. It treats all corporations, including incorporated unions and non-profits, in the same way: as artificial creatures of the state that we the people govern, not the other way around.
Let me make clear - the People’s Rights Amendment preserves all of the individual rights guaranteed under the Constitution. Individual members of corporations have free speech and constitutional rights like everyone else.
· I am proud that the People’s Rights Amendment has bipartisan support in the House
Originally posted by neformore
Personal attacks against other members ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE
I hope thats clear. Any more of that will result in post bans being issued.
First and ONLY warning.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by beezzer
I would just like to point out something to my liberal collegues here.
If this were a conservative president in office and a conservative group trying to abridge free speech, especially for liberals, then you may not be so enthusiastic about this proposal.
I would like to point out that this is an iniative that has been called for by several conservative leaning states, both through thier attorney generals as well as resolutions at the state level and this also would exclude unions groups from the definition as well as corporations.
I know it is difficult sometimes, but comming at without the partisan glasses is the most honest route.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by xuenchen
allow Congress to regulate political speech when it is engaged in by corporations as opposed to individuals.
Well this would equate out to any news source being essentially silenced.
Thats right, I dont know of one "news" agency on the net, print or TV that is not
a corporation.
You are confused. "The Press" is still protected under the first amendment, which this proposal would not alter.
This proposal only looks to define "speech" as originating with living, breathing, people as opposed to corporate legal constructs structured with a sole duty to profits.
The constitutional amendment the Democrats seek would reverse the Supreme Court’s 2010
decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.
In that decision the court said that the First
Amendment protects a right of free speech for corporations as well as for individuals,
and that corporations (including those that produce newspapers, films and books)
have a right to speak about politicians and their records just as individuals do.
Originally posted by beezzer
So the media is not affected.
(liberal)
Unions are not affected.
(liberal)
Originally posted by burntheships
Sorry, I dont know if you are personally trying to spread misinformation.
This would clearly put limits of free speech on the press, especially the press!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by beezzer
So the media is not affected.
(liberal)
Unions are not affected.
(liberal)
Beez, dont fall for it. He has posted very misleading statements,
and not backed them up.
Basically his is posting misinformation.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Indigo5
Actually half truths.
You haven't addressed the dichotomy in the bill that would differentiate between freedom of the press and controling what a corporation (media) says.
Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
Well, see, here's the thing: a lot of the things that people hear about are from the media, which are corporations. AKA what little truth and freedom of the press still exists in the U.S. would be dead.
Originally posted by Indigo5
, but FOX NEWS can't take 50 Million and start a PAC to slam Obama.edit on 20-4-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sonnny1
So the minute ANYONE forms a Corporation,they lose their rights?
Nice.