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Originally posted by ~Vixen~
Couples planning to have a family need to do the math BEFOREHAND to ensure that they can properly provide for that child.
Originally posted by UFO1414
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Sometimes I wonder how the economy would be if women never entered the work force in such large numbers. Better or worse?
I was going to research this and make a thread on my findings because i feel the women's lib movement killed not only the economy but a lot of others things as well. If I have time, i will start the thread and let you know.
Originally posted by hadriana
IF i don't work for 'tha man' I work for "my family.'
And my work, it turns out, is actually worth a lot.
For instance...I made a few hundred on eBay this week.
I won 80.00 worth of contest 'stuff' - gas card, Home Depot card, and a dollar general card
I made 9.00 in surveys
I found a rebate that I used to get free beer with (can't beat free beer!)
My hubby smokes so I rolled him some cigs with the tobacco I grew
I made another batch of beer
Grocery bill was 281.00 and I paid 165.00 - (COUPONS!)
I took care of about anh...1500 seedlings, repotted around 200.
Worked on the website for the plant business we are trying to start
Made bread, cooked some darn good pizza, chicken marsala, oriental salad that blows Panera's out of the water...among other things. We ALWAYS have good, mostly cooked from scratch food here.
Took care of my teen and a few others- including computer repair for one of them
Took care of my chickens - got a bunch of baby cuties, plus my older girls
Dried about a pound of herbs to sell
Helped my hubby take down 2 trees
Nabbed a freecycle with a lot of nice shoes/clothes (I needed them!)
Made a #ake mushroom log. Hopefully that will supply us for a year or so with mushrooms
Started some oyster mushrooms
Man, I'm worth something.
Who gets it? Tha man? Or MY MAN?
Easy choice for me.
I wish single women had more options, I do. I wish that more married women that wanted to work for their families would consider it. I am perfectly happy.
edit on 18-4-2012 by hadriana because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by JohnPhoenix
Having a child, or creating a family with many children is nothing at all like purchasing expensive automobiles for your garage. A child, any child, is worth far more than any Jag, or Mercedes, or even an Aston Martin or Rolls Royce. Children are not privileges that belong only to those with a bank account and full approval of the current system, children are the right of any parent, and those children born then take their full rights as living creature, great or small.
The truth of the matter is, in regards to this economy, we all brought this on ourselves, and frankly, blame is irrelevant. Stay at home Mom's, doing so because it is more cost effective to do so, are women taking full responsibility for their family and motherhood, and do not deserve any derision or bogus blame for having a child without some elitists snobs approval.
Originally posted by BrittanyLea
It amazes me how quick people are to judge. "well you should have never had kids in the first place" REALLY? That's your answer? So many people lose their jobs every day. So many fathers and even mothers walk out on their families every day.
Not only that, but it's really irritating that several of us have stated that we are stay at home moms because it makes since financially AND that we are NOT on welfare. That's mostly what the article was about, and still people keeping coming into the thread without reading the article or the previous comments and chiming in with "You shouldn't have had kids you lazy welfare moms!"
I don't think this thread was about moms complaining and begging for welfare. It was about the fact that it's sometimes a smarter choice financially for a mother to stay home with the children while the father works outside of the home, if it is a two parent family.
Originally posted by Malynn
I don't think only people who "can afford it" should have children. As others have stated we should all be able to exercise our ability to procreate. At this point in my life I'd love to be thinking about having a baby with my man.
But honestly, I'm struggling with the whole concept. The thought of bringing my innocent, beautiful little baby to this ****hole planet to survive the way we currently do fills me with terror. I would have to stay home with him or her at least while they are young, and I'd have to do home-schooling at least until Junior High. The thought of raising another mindless consumer is completely abhorrent to me.
Originally posted by fictitious
reply to post by CALGARIAN
My household spends $350 in tolls, $500 on gas, $50 on lunches a month. When we had a kid (hopefully in the near future), that would be another $1100 on day care. Taxes and insurance takes 35% of our paychecks.
It is definitely worth it for moms to stay at home...at least for us.
Sometimes I wonder how the economy would be if women never entered the work force in such large numbers. Better or worse?
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Deflecting is not going to change the fact that all these smug people insisting that the way they went about planning their families could not have relied upon Planned Parenthood to help them do so. Anyone walking into a Planned Parenthood today with their mate and announcing they would like to start planning a family will be treated with suspicion and curtly told they cannot be helped.
But hey, let's pretend like I made some other argument so you can then plug Planned Parenthood and their "services".
Originally posted by ColoradoJens
Just wondering to all those touting the "if you have a child you should plan for the costs" crowd; How much money are you putting away for the time when your doctor tells you "your three year old has Ewings Sarcoma"? You better believe it is well over $100k out of pocket. In other words, dont have kids unless you are filthy rich. How does one "plan" for this again?
There are too many variables to consider to come up with a viable number. One could also ask how would the economy be if there were no men in the work force, or even how would the economy be if women ran politics. Regardless, it just doesn't matter.
Originally posted by fictitious
Sometimes I wonder how the economy would be if women never entered the work force in such large numbers. Better or worse?
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by ~Vixen~
You're confused by your own open hostility? Perhaps you should give up on the hostility and find better guidance, especially if you spend as much time backpedaling as you are now. You chose to take a statement I made about Planned Parenthood, ignore the intent of that statement and then lecture me on the value of Planned Parenthood's contraceptive program. No one made you take up the mantle of defense for Planned Parenthood, this was your choice all by yourself.