Loud bang across UK - MOD investigates.

possibly entirely unrelated but this popped up on twitter a few minutes ago
in this post twitter.com...#!/UrNorthNorfolk/status/190535680106041344/photo/1

I usually just stalk ate, but upon reading this thread I had to say what I saw.
I live in a small town outside of Bath, at 6.30pm I walked out a shop to the sound of thunder,
Several people were in the car park looking up, I saw a black typhoon flying low and slow it was making controlled
Turns that were strange they were tight, it was pulling up then down. It then flew away from me towards a helicopter that was flying left to right. It then went out of sight and I went home, but I could hear the typhoon for another 10min maybe

I know I didn't hear it and have no specialist knowledge etc so I shouldn't really comment on this yet but something just doesn't fit right with all this.

It reads like something straight out of a Hollywood conspiracy movie and how the authorities would react in the event of a more 'unusual' source of the 'boom' or 'bang'.

Originally posted by theabsolutetruth

I don't believe the typhoons scrambled from Lincs for a civilian helicopter in Bath that pressed a button, surely there are better ways, like radio, radar and other sky patrols before fast response units flying under resourced high cost missions are actioned, there are levels of response and for a panic button on helicopter this isn't first response, this is major threat level response.

This is standard procedure. What sky patrols? It is standard procedure for Quick Reaction Alert jets based at Northern QRA at RAF Leuchars and Southern QRA at RAF Coningsby to respond to such emergencies at the time. They are not up patrolling and are tasked to scramble from rest from their hardened aircraft shelters.

They render navigational assistance, if requested, to military and civilian aircraft to include warning of other air traffic, and they assist aircraft with in-flight emergencies, for example the loss of communication, in coordination with appropriate civil Air Traffic Control, ATC. Designated Air Defence units provide fighter aircraft for the Quick Reaction Alert Force, QRA Force.

www.airn.nato.int...

Seriously some of you guys on here really do try to make a conspiracy mountain out of a mole-hill

Originally posted by Hmmmreally
I usually just stalk ate, but upon reading this thread I had to say what I saw.
I live in a small town outside of Bath, at 6.30pm I walked out a shop to the sound of thunder,
Several people were in the car park looking up, I saw a black typhoon flying low and slow it was making controlled
Turns that were strange they were tight, it was pulling up then down. It then flew away from me towards a helicopter that was flying left to right. It then went out of sight and I went home, but I could hear the typhoon for another 10min maybe

Nothing unusual about the turns or the slow flight. It is designed to conduct high alpha manouveres. If you have ever seen an RAF Typhoon display at an airshow then the slow pass and slow turns are part of demonstration. Also the colour is not black. That is just shadow and the light conditions making it appear black. There was only one black Typhoon (Development aircraft) and that was retired long ago and is now in a museum.

www.airliners.net...

All the RAF Typhoons are standard grey.

This is one of the Typhoons that was scrambled to intercept the helicopter. Typhoon serial ZJ935. This is the standard grey colour scheme.

jetphotos.net...

At 23 seconds in this video, sounds very similar to what i heard

great video of some sonic booms.

Originally posted by afgang
possibly entirely unrelated but this popped up on twitter a few minutes ago
in this post twitter.com...#!/UrNorthNorfolk/status/190535680106041344/photo/1

Odd. Could be fake, not saying it is or it isn't though.

Hmm?

Doesn't look to obviously fake, although I'm far from an expert, I just mean it doesn't look like an amateur attempt at a hoax. Intriguing.
Odd.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
BBC just updated:

The MoD revealed it was from a Typhoon responding to an emergency call.

Hmm?

Ok so what the hell was so important that a typhoon scrambled and went supersonic over land?

That's the question here.......

Good work friend.

Originally posted by PrinceDreamer

Ok if a witness says he say the Typhoon, fine, but a Typhoon acting in this manner does not give off a sonic boom, it has to be travelling faster than the speed of sound to do that.

Go over to Fighter Control website and inform them that is is 'fishy'. The radio communications were monitored by radio enthusiasts with the pilot of one of the Typhoons referencing Mach 1.2. Absolutely nothing unusual in a QRA jet being scrambled to monitor any civilian flight be it a helicopter or not. It is their job not only as part of UK QRA but also as part of QRA assigned to NATO. See following.

www.airn.nato.int...

Originally posted by rigel4

Ok so what the hell was so important that a typhoon scrambled and went supersonic over land?

That's the question here.......

To get to the area as quickly as possible to assist. That is their tasking. It is standard procedure conducted by Eurofighter Typhoons - Nothern QRA at RAF Leuchars and Southern QRA at RAF Coningsby have the tasking to cover the UK. It is in the title 'Quick Reaction Alert'. What did you expect for the Typhoons to take off and go as slow as possible to the area where the emergency tasking is required? Radio enthusiasts monitored one of the pilots of the Typhoon, call sign 5KG41, referencing Mach 1.2.

reply to post by tommyjo


You got a link to that info please mate?

I don't disbelieve you, just wanna read it myself.

Originally posted by mr-lizard

Hmm?

Doesn't look to obviously fake, although I'm far from an expert, I just mean it doesn't look like an amateur attempt at a hoax. Intriguing.
Odd.

Nothing odd about it. It is the two Typhoons and the VC-10 Tanker. The tanker is out of RAF Brize Norton and the Typhoons are out of RAF Coningsby. The Typhoons after the helicopter intercept went and conducted operations over the east coast of England for a good few hours with the tanker.

Some of you guys seriously need to get out of the conspiracy mode. Go over to Fighter Control website and see the radio monitoring of the scramble and intercept. Some of the sections you will have to register to view.

www.fightercontrol.co.uk...

I noted on the radio at least one of the Typhoons landing just before 2200 local. The VC-10 tanker (Vickers VC-10) was noted heading back to Brize Norton and scheduled to land at around 2200 local.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by tommyjo

 

You got a link to that info please mate?

I don't disbelieve you, just wanna read it myself.

www.fightercontrol.co.uk...

www.aeroresource.co.uk...

Some of the section on the Fighter Control website you will have to register to view. For example some of the radio and airbase logs. Hope that helps?

Originally posted by tommyjo

Originally posted by theabsolutetruth

I don't believe the typhoons scrambled from Lincs for a civilian helicopter in Bath that pressed a button, surely there are better ways, like radio, radar and other sky patrols before fast response units flying under resourced high cost missions are actioned, there are levels of response and for a panic button on helicopter this isn't first response, this is major threat level response.

This is standard procedure. What sky patrols? It is standard procedure for Quick Reaction Alert jets based at Northern QRA at RAF Leuchars and Southern QRA at RAF Coningsby to respond to such emergencies at the time. They are not up patrolling and are tasked to scramble from rest from their hardened aircraft shelters.

They render navigational assistance, if requested, to military and civilian aircraft to include warning of other air traffic, and they assist aircraft with in-flight emergencies, for example the loss of communication, in coordination with appropriate civil Air Traffic Control, ATC. Designated Air Defence units provide fighter aircraft for the Quick Reaction Alert Force, QRA Force.

www.airn.nato.int...

Seriously some of you guys on here really do try to make a conspiracy mountain out of a mole-hill

I am aware of QRA procedure and where the jets were sent from, I am also aware of ATC response and the first is to establish certain things BEFORE QRA are actioned. In this instance it appears sending QRA was unnecessary and avoidable, therefore should have been recognised as such way before going supersonic across more than 4 counties. The RESPONSE wasn't the correct response and having felt an dheard the ''boom'' it didn't sound or feel like any NORMAL sonic boom, it felt more earth based and the reports heard as far afield as West Midlands to North Devon which if you do not know the UK is a far scope for a sonic boom to be heard. Additionally, there are regular RAF traffic here, I live near to a few bases, and know the drill, and this WASN'T standard. How many reports are there covering such a vast area of sonic booms in the UK...answer very few and none that fit this supposed scenario.

Whilst there are many that may try making conspiracys out of anything, plenty of people are on ATS for the TRUTH. If this is difficult for you to understand then don't read the posts.

Originally posted by tommyjo


To get to the area as quickly as possible to assist. That is their tasking. It is standard procedure conducted by Eurofighter Typhoons - Nothern QRA at RAF Leuchars and Southern QRA at RAF Coningsby have the tasking to cover the UK. It is in the title 'Quick Reaction Alert'. What did you expect for the Typhoons to take off and go as slow as possible to the area where the emergency tasking is required? Radio enthusiasts monitored one of the pilots of the Typhoon, call sign 5KG41, referencing Mach 1.2.

Thank you for the contribution tommyjo. I accept what you've said and trust it to be the explanation in this case.

Anyone got any info on the actual helicopter and pilot?

Also what type of 'warning' was it?

I've heard it was a radio frequency - if people can monitor the radio chatter of the scrambled jets, then what about the helicopter and the emergency frequency?

I was on facebook earlier this afternoon and noticed one of my friends who lives in Bath updated there status saying there there was a fighter jet flying around and it sounded like the jet was about to crash, they said the engine kept cutting out then starting up again. That was before it appeared on the news about a loud bang around Coventry area.

Definitely sounds like something strange was going on.

This is their status "What's with the fighter jet circling Bath? It was really low earlier and kept cutting the engine out. Loud and scary".

Then they updated to this a little later talking about it being on the news. "This explains what was going on over Bath earlier with the Jet...it was so loud...scared me a bit to be honest. I was out walking Shortie and thought that the plane was coming down it was so loud"

I guess shortie is their dog

No way it was a sonic boom. I heard lots of them when I was a kid growing up in the Netherlands.
Impossible for a sonic boom to travel 40 Miles or 60 Kilometers.

reply to post by CX


you can get what you call a carpet boom which actually moves with the aircraft ...

going 750 miles plus would cover a lot of ground ..actually you can get two different types of boom ..u waves and n waves ..even a maneuver can trigger a boom ..

weather, altitude also come into play ...from what i gather there were two typhoons been scrambled

Okay thanks to another member - here's some more info: Some snaps taken from a guy in Bath (UK) - claims to have seen some kind of flare or weather balloon?



www.flickr.com...

“No mention though of the mysterious unidentified object hovering over Bath at the same time?
The jets escorted the helicopter to the south west of the city. They returned at very high altitude to investigate a cylindrical object hanging vertically to the north of the city.
The object was drifting - possibly a weather balloon - I managed to get some shots and there is another one on Twitter (search #BathUFO) showing two jets and the object.
Any word on what this was, Bath Chronicle?
If you want to see my pics go to /c5ceh7n
You need to follow the instructions on how to zoom in shown on the web page there.
I do not believe in UFOs but have a look and draw your own conclusions.”

Very odd.

Original post on here too (from member who found the link):

www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=13894819#pid13894819