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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by MichiganSwampBuck
Those who engage in the acts of carpet bombing, raping, and murdering, are not true Christians, they are in fact the opposite.
This right here is why i do not vote for so called "christians" running for office. If we vote for these people and they sign off on committing those acts we are just as guilty as they are and i will not have it. Yeshua never gave us the rights to make war or murder other people, or obtain worldly power and worldly wealth or force our beliefs on someone else at the point of a sword or on pain of death.
Originally posted by Jameela
reply to post by yuppa
you have never once seen me say anything in favor of extremism, I am the first to call a terrorist a terrorist... I will however defend Islam when it is practiced truthfully, and this thread is one example. I did not make excuses for trying someone for apostasy, I did however explain why from the Islamic standpoint. I did not blame Christians or Christianity for the actions of the Islamic Republic of Iran concerning placing on trial some apostates to Islam.
But when you only want to demonize Islam, I say do it after you clean up your own mess....You know, pulling that log out of your eye before examining my splinter...
I am taking my leave, and I wish you all well in this life. Just remember your actions, might want to take care of them now, they are going before you. I am taking care of mine.
If you all would nicely keep to yourself and your business we are certainly happy to keep to ours. I would appreciate it much.
edit on 12-4-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by camus154
If you approach a debate from the standpoint of a Muslim, or a Christian, or a Jew, you've already failed.
Sorry, but your antiquated beliefs, however precious and adorable, are soon drawing to an end as far as usefulness. New generations don't automatically demand respect by virtue of a label or tradition, but rather on merit alone.
You are all so screwed.
Originally posted by yuppa
Im sorry you see it that way. All of these religions try to do good for their followers and others if they did not they would have died out long ago. What do people of your stripe do that is actually of Merit and not to glorify yourselves?
Coming into a conversation not concerning you is more of a fail than anything else. We do not demand respect. I do not personaly demand respect because to earn respect you have to want to get it. We present our beleifs,you have to choose yourself whether to beleive in them.
Obama is a Christian also, although some appear to disagree with his sect of christianity and many do takfir upon him even Santorum says he is a christian
you have never once seen me say anything in favor of extremism
So what is it, is the declaration sufficient for a punishment? Or are insults and defamation required? And what is the appropiate punishment according to you?
Originally posted by yuppa
reply to post by Jameela
Could not have said it better. I agree with that statement 100 percent. Im curious though werent the dark ages a time of barbaric rule,not religious rule? the dark ages lead to the age of the crusades who was gauided by a man in rome using religion as a way to control the sheeple. Alot of followers who did not comprehend the relgious text were tricked,and because they could not read mostly back then it was easy to fool them. And as for 9-11 i dont recall the catholic church or muslims who are not extremist celebrating such a tragedy.