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Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
You're actually just repeating yourself...
Do you believe i don't know what an idol is?
He did not personally know Jesus and did not travel with him and witness his life unfold.
I take with a grain of salt ANYTHING WRITTEN BY ANYONE WHO WAS NOT A PERSONAL WITNESS TO THE LIFE OF CHRIST.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Why don't you just make a thread about it bro...
Anyone who actually reads his words will clearly see he was not God...
Really the only reason the idea is even suggested is because it is used as a trump card against other religions...
"Our God walked amoung us" so he is better then your God...
In reality the idea was completely fabricated by misunderstanding scripture... Blame it on the church, not the churches followers
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
One of the themes on Jesus being rescued from the Crucifiction is that he went to India to avoid more like problems:
It does appear the only ones selling Jesus died and was resurrected are those Bible types that don't read all the other books that tell Jesus survived.
Does this make organized Christian religion the anti-Christ that is forecast in Revelations?
Does this major screw up in the understanding of Jesus times make these organized religion types the Beast of Armageddon?
I certainly think so, and the Bible Books were organized to promote empire and making a false idol of Jesus. imho
edit on 3-4-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Critical Thinking and Jesus' plight
Originally posted by guitarplayer
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by guitarplayer
Amen! Point to note it was James the lesser, James the Lord's brother was beheaded.
Oh but Jesus did not have any brothers or sisters......./s
Let me ask you one thing about this theory of yours, if something you knew was a lie would you stand up and be stoned to death like Stephen was? Or would you allow yourself to be thrown off the top of a church to your death like James was? Or to be crucified or boiled in oil? Do a study of the first apostles and see how they were put to death for their testimony of Christ, and then ask yourself if you would be willing to die for a lie.
Franklin & the Gospel
But what was Franklin's view of Christianity and of the Lord Jesus Christ? He answered that question directly, shortly before he died. He wrote the following to Ezra Stiles, who was then president of Yale University. Stiles had inquired about Franklin's views on religion and of the Lord Jesus Christ:
"As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly
desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left
them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but
I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes, and I have,
with most of the present Dissenters in England, some Doubts
as to his divinity …"
From the first part of his response, Franklin's views about Jesus seem very similar to those of Paine and Jefferson, making reference to "corrupt changes" in the Gospel record. Like many others, he compliments the "morality" of Christ, while rejecting His authority. This was typical of the founding fathers. But this is also what Paul warned the church of when he wrote of "perilous times to come" in the last days, when men will have a "form of godliness" but are "denying the power thereof" (2 Timothy 3:5). The power of godliness comes from faith in Christ Himself. Without Him, the form of godliness that men create through morality is a deception.