If there was a pill to kill all your sexual desire, would you take it?

Originally posted by Thescripter
reply to post by silent thunder

 

On a similar note, I always wondered about the poor guys/gals who could never sustain a relationship due to mental or physical disabilities. Should they be forbidden from a sexual encounter in their life? Does prostitution deserve some form of merit in civilized society? Should we just kill them off so they don't suffer? Or should we feed them hormone suppressing drug therapy so they don't have to deal with urges?

That is a real tough one. You know, I think there might be cases where some kind of drug therapy like you mentioned might be best.

I don't really object to the idea of people killing off their sex drives, if that's what they want. But personally, I'd never go down that road.

Originally posted by SpiritualStar
I thought I was alone, guess not. I would take the pill, though I really don't see the need, since sex is uninteresting to me, anyways. This also makes me a HUGE turn off (No guy wants a girl who doesn't want sex), but I don't mind... it just goes to show what people think, at least to me.

...that people like sex...

I see it too.

Originally posted by Thescripter

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Why would you want to deny your basic human instincts. You start suppressing your natural sexual emotions, you will find that other emotions become just as powerful, like violence maybe?

I think you need to re think this one.

Were the eunuchs of old mass killers?
Or monks who abstained their sexual urges?

Although you make a valid argument.. Individuals such as priests and monks choose celibacy not to deny their sexual identity but to attain a higher purpose for themselves individually... I would ascertain that they do not promote the total lack of sexual activity in humanity overall.. That would result in our extinction.. I also doubt they would promote the idea of everyone being artificially grown in a laboratory as their connection with the natural / spiritual world would deem this immoral, unnatural or downright blasphemous..

Originally posted by TheXoor
reply to post by silent thunder

 

Yeah but dood, you have a beautiful gf and you seem to be pretty well-off based on some other stuff you've posted.

Have you ever been flat broke and sexless for a long time? Its not mellow at all, let me just put it that way.

Sure sex is great if you can afford it. Girls are expensive, is what it comes down to. For those of us just struggling to keep our heads above the water its not really all that cool to be pestered by our hormones, which try to get us to spend money we don't have to get embroiled in relationships. It would be nice to turn that stuff off when its not viable or affordable, if you know what I mean.

That's another reasonable point. I've been broke and not-broke. Its much harder to date when you are broke, I will give you that.

I've pretty much had a woman in my life in one form or another since I was 14...except for a period in the early 90s when I was broke and nearly homeless. It does make a difference. On the other hand, you don't need to have cash to date and enjoy the company of women. It makes it harder, perhaps, but not impossible. This is where charm and other good qualities come in to play...so many men who complain about sexlessness to me seem to be whiners, or people unwilling to change themselves or become more attentive to female needs. You just need to put a little effort into it and some creativity. If money was necessary for relationships the third world wouldn't have the huge populations it does, you realize...

reply to post by Dustytoad


Not exactly what I meant. I know people like sex.

reply to post by Thescripter


You have a point. I used to work with the mentally handicapped, and the parents of the males with mental retardation would come to us in frustration because, although their sons had very low IQs, their sex drive was still up and functioning like crazy. I had more than one with MR ask for a hug and then grip on me and start humping. They were just going with their urges and couldn't control themselves. Female members of their families could never turn their back on them.

I remember one family calling and asking if we could teach their mentally handicapped son how to masturbate properly, because he was doing it by taking his pants off and rubbing on the carpet until he was, um...satisfied. They were upset because their carpet was trashed. I had to explain that we didn't teach our clients how to masturbate. They asked if there was a pill to deal with this and I referred them to their doctor.

Makes you think, though....for some people, a pill like this might keep them out of a great deal of trouble.

reply to post by FissionSurplus

I recently saw a Taboo documentary on prostitution that included a segment about following a physically disabled man from Britain to a brothel in Amsterdam. His father takes him a few times a year, and waits outside while his son is serviced.

What is even more controversial is that some countries in which prostitution is illegal actually fund such trips at the taxpayer's expense!

I cannot say it's wrong or right.
What I don't like is the hypocrisy of having to do it legally in another country with tacit approval.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

reply to post by DaMod

Priests take vows of celibacy, but that does not mean desire goes away, or that they don't act on it: www.telegraph.co.uk...
Such a pill would be useful for monks and priests, but it would probably be forbidden.
Part of being a priest is to struggle against the flesh, and to redirect desire from the flesh to the spirit.
Without the challenge, what's the point?

They should give it to pedophiles however, and that's one group that could really benefit, but they must really make sure it works first.

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Complete castration would be better than any pill.

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reply to post by Thescripter

I don't think so, because sexuality happens between the ears (in the brain, or mind).

There are still complete castrations amongst third gender sects in India and other countries, and they do not lose their desire (I suppose one could also include Western transgendered people).

Traditionally most of these men are of a homosexual orientation, but in the West some men become lesbian women. It's pretty fair to say that they are physically castrated, but mentally they feel in the right body, with a comfortable sexuality.

The Castrati were also not non-sexual in the 18th century (when the opera and the church employed 100 000 of them). They were often accompanied by scandal and intrigue.
In other cultures they were fierce warriors and body-guards for nobles.

Suffice to say that the whole body can be a sexual organ, and mutilation or alteration has never destroyed desire.

The only positive aspect I see in the eradication of sexual desire in human beings is that the advertising and marketing industry would have to be a lot more creative lol

On another note, they do say that our biggest sex organ is our brain. On a medical level, any chemical that would suppress desire as a result would probably have negative effect on human behavior in general

reply to post by halfoldman


Good point - You're correct.

Originally posted by Thescripter
reply to post by silent thunder

 

On a similar note, I always wondered about the poor guys/gals who could never sustain a relationship due to mental or physical disabilities. Should they be forbidden from a sexual encounter in their life? Does prostitution deserve some form of merit in civilized society? Should we just kill them off so they don't suffer? Or should we feed them hormone suppressing drug therapy so they don't have to deal with urges?

Sorry I answered this but it got took down for being vulgar and obscene............
I wasn't being vulgar nor obscene at all (in my view) I was answering this question from a mental health view and what we have to deal with everyday.
But if I offended anyone Iam sorry.

Originally posted by boymonkey74

Originally posted by Thescripter
reply to post by silent thunder

 

On a similar note, I always wondered about the poor guys/gals who could never sustain a relationship due to mental or physical disabilities. Should they be forbidden from a sexual encounter in their life? Does prostitution deserve some form of merit in civilized society? Should we just kill them off so they don't suffer? Or should we feed them hormone suppressing drug therapy so they don't have to deal with urges?

Sorry I answered this but it got took down for being vulgar and obscene............
I wasn't being vulgar nor obscene at all (in my view) I was answering this question from a mental health view and what we have to deal with everyday.
But if I offended anyone Iam sorry.

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I appreciated your story, and working in geriatric and psych floors before had zero doubts your story was true. Anyway thanks for putting my argument into a real life perspective, at least for a short while.

Originally posted by Leftist
I would. I consider sexuality to be perhaps the biggest time-and-energy waster on planet earth. Imagine how much people could accomplish if their energy was not wasted on such stupid pursuits.

Sexuality is the cause of endless conflicts, sorrow, depression, broken hearts, anger, confusion, and so on. It would be best if humanity eventually learned to remove sexual appetite from the species, through genetic engineering, say, or through pills or other medical means. People would still have children, but they would do so as the result of rational planning, not blind lust.

Does anyone else feel the way I do?

edit on 3/27/2012 by Leftist because: (no reason given)

Are you kidding, you know how much money, Hollywood, marketing, Victoria Secret, etc. they would lose a but load of money, why? sex sells. Somebody must have burned you bad, But I'm sorry If they ever told me to take this pill, I'll tell them to kill me

The Minute I took the damn pill,, the ONE ,,, my TRUE LOVE and SOUL MATE would be the Very NEXT PERSON I SEE....

so,,, no,,,
just in case they are still out there...

reply to post by mytheroy

Yeah that's the crux, we don't easily define "desire", nor can we tell how it is linked to more positive qualities, or the economy.

Without desire, will alpha males still work hard to afford that flashy car and spending money to dazzle the ladies?

But maybe we'll have beauty for beauty's sake.
Maybe straight guys will finally recognize how gracefully Kim Kardashian walks, and that any woman who does the "I'm a little teapot" pose so flawlessly deserves to be filthy rich.

And then there's the unmentionable subject of homoeroticism.
Will a percentage of men lose interest in rugby and football, and rather go birdwatching?
I'll just say I don't think so ... cough ... well it's all theoretical.

At least Justin Bieber could have his back scrubbed by some female fans after the concert, while they discuss the stock market and Richard Dawkins.

Originally posted by mytheroy
Are you kidding, you know how much money, Hollywood, marketing, Victoria Secret, etc. they would lose a but load of money...

You say that like its a bad thing...

why live out a life full of sexual desire, with no one to share it with?