If there was a pill to kill all your sexual desire, would you take it?

reply to post by Qumulys


That was personal, and I thank you for sharing that. Very honest, brave, and revealing.

The mind is a strange thing; we all construct our own ad-hoc psychological coping mechanisms. If your disgust is a coping mecahnism and works, that's probably a good thing for you.

I'm sure you have thought about this before, but perhaps you could find somebody for companionship in a similar situation, or a woman who dislikes sex. Then you might be able to experience some intimacy even if it is non-sexual. I hope whatever the case you are at peace with yourself.

Thanks again for your honesty.

reply to post by silent thunder


Your welcome

Yeah, I've certainly hoped for finding a lady with zero sexual desire...

But it seems like I've got more chance of finding the Higgs Boson by putting a magnet in the blow hole of a Sperm Whale

Hell... no.

And I'm pretty eccentric.

reply to post by Qumulys


I don't know about that.

Two women (at least) in this thread have already said or strongly implied they dislike sex. Including, it seems, the OP.

reply to post by Leftist

Hi Leftist, I know where you're coming from and you're right. The Three Gateways To Hell, Kama, Lobha and Krodha. It is A Very Necessary Practice Brahmanic Behavior (Brahmacarya) and A Very Great Part of The Spiritual Cleansing Process. Namaste...

reply to post by silent thunder


It's not a matter of what I like or dislike (although you are correct).

Its about wasting time and energy. And about irrational behavior that could be avoided if we were able to act more reasonably and view things outside the prison of our base urges.

Humanity is capable of anything if we put our mind to it. We are not imprisoned by our bodily natures. We should be ascending away from our animalistic selves anyway, towards higher things. This is our road of advancement as a species. The upswing of humanity has always been marked by the movement away from what we share with lower-order animals.

Also, in passing: Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. There are a lot of good replies here !

reply to post by Leftist


Very interesting thread to say the least.

I would. I consider sexuality to be perhaps the biggest time-and-energy waster on planet earth. Imagine how much people could accomplish if their energy was not wasted on such stupid pursuits.

Oh ya it would be a different world all together.

But this is a biological construct world, and sexual energy is one of the driving forces and energy in everything that happens on this planet. Is it a waste of time? Nah there is not such thing as time and nothing goes to waste. It's all just preference, decisions, and pursuits, as you said. So I don't think you will find many people who agree with you on this one given that sex and sexual energy is what there all here for, you know the games of love. And some of them are like rabbits it seems.

There is nothing really to accomplish in this existence, because this existence is a experience more so then and end goal. However ya your right, once you remove the urges and biological triggers it will change your whole outlook on things and you whole mind, I do not think there will be a way to totally get rid of it for all time since it will just reconfigure itself into other things. But I don't see what your point is, I mean if you don't like sex then just stop doing it...It ain't easy, but it ain't all that hard to do.

You can control yourself you know, don't need no pill or snip to do it. # I have been doing it my whole life, and considering that there probably has not been one morning where I have not had the umm lets say morning wood urge, and I still can control myself to the dot when it comes to this thing...It's not really that hard, in fact compared to some other energy's out there the sexual energy and all it's manifestations such as love, lust, and all that, are actually pretty weak urges and energy's. But you know everybody likes fun.

Sexuality is the cause of endless conflicts, sorrow, depression, broken hearts, anger, confusion, and so on. It would be best if humanity eventually learned to remove sexual appetite from the species, through genetic engineering, say, or through pills or other medical means. People would still have children, but they would do so as the result of rational planning, not blind lust.

No its not, sexuality is not the cause of endless conflicts, it might be part of it..But its not the cause, or at least not the whole cause. And if you want to be a robot then go ahead, but even the machines have there version of sex, love and lust that moves them, you know just to give you a heads up. The only thing I agree is the whole rational planing when people have children.

Does anyone else feel the way I do?

I have not read this whole thread yet but it would be a miracle if you find one person who would. And no I am not one who feels the way you do.

Originally posted by Leftist
reply to post by Thescripter

 

That's a great point!

Thanks. This should be understandable on a logical level even to those hostile to the original idea.

So you saying exactly what you wrote, as in something to cut the drive and feelings away for a period of time. Or are you talking about indefinitely ie forever?

Either way it would be dangerous because, once off the drug. Lots of people will not want to go back...A different type of junkie would be created, one that seeks no thrills what so ever. No really if you meditate or get rid of it for moments or periods time in it's clarity it is kind of addictive, or addictive is not the word..It is liberating and it does bring clarity, which can be addictive, as in people would not want to go back to being puppet controlled by its forces. Which will lead to a whole bunch of problems most of which would be propagation.

If however you want some anti Viagra pill then something can be conjured up me thinks.

reply to post by Leftist


I do sweety,i'm surprised how you feel this way at such a young age.Your smart enough to know better...ten million stars for you miss

reply to post by silent thunder

Pretty much everything in history men have done relates to impressing women somehow.

Ya your right.

I somehow doubt there would be massive, soaring skyscrapers jutting up into the air in cities across the globe if there was no sex drive.

So sure about that are you.

But what if I said that if there was no sex drive, that the skyscrapers would reach past the moon and way into space.

I will say a pill to kill sexual desire would be a great way to kill the human race.

I say this because a few times I have been in a club and a few times after drinking a certain number of beers, all my sexual desire left me. I wasn't at all interested in meeting or talking to anyone. I was wondering why I was even there. If I felt that way all the time, it would kill most of my desire to advance in life. I wouldn't be interested in sex, or getting a mate or working harder to achieve those sort of things. It would probably be a sign something was physically wrong with me and just a matter of time before I died.

I had a few dreams where I had no human emotions but I wasn't completely human in those dreams either. Without any human emotion, it didn't bother me whether any particular human lived, died or suffered or if I caused it. So if you want to take away the human desire to live or the desire to work towards a goal, then take away all their sexual desire and you should kill them and the human race eventually.

If a pill were used then you could assume natural procreation stopped. Only humans created in test tubes would create new humans. I doubt this process would be random. It would be government controlled. Undesireables would be eliminated. The only humans left would then become used to being selected. The human gene pool would likely lack very much diversity after a number of generations. All it would take is one bad plague or some other natural disaster where no one has any immunity any more due to the lack of genetic diversity to wipe out the entire human race.

reply to post by Leftist


I don't know where I am (see posts previous page). I'm living a world where since sex has been taken away from me, it took my need to be creative with it. I'm finding paintings take months on end to do, I start recording a song and give up after 30 minutes. I think sex is linked to the need to express your own success. We all have a deep seated nature to do something to attract a mate on subconscious and conscious levels.

Its very rare I feel the need for sex (few times a year), and even then it leaves me disgusted. During the other times, well, without that drive anymore, I feel like an endless book of A4 day after day. Is it a result of becoming mostly asexual, or having no companionship/friendship? I believe its linked. Maybe one day I'll find someone who has no need for sex as well, but I do worry of the frustrations it can cause. Its a very complex issue and deep understanding and honesty is the only way a relationship like that can survive. Sex is an outlet, a reset button of a sort that is almost essential for any relationship to work.

reply to post by Leftist


Lol i really disagree. Then life would be no fun, sure less broken hearts but it would also mean that people didnt fall in love. And children wouldnt be created with love, they would just be created because it is our duty as a species. Plus i dont think sexual desire is keeping the average human from accomplishing things lol

reply to post by Qumulys


Your story interested me. I mean, its rare for a man to have this perspective, so I appreciate your input.

Because of all the people in the thread, you are thje only one (as far as I know based on what people said, anyway) who really has no choice in the matter. It was thrust upon you.

I find it interesting that after a lack of interest in you by others, you develped a sense of disgust. I, too, have a sense of disgust...but its kind of for the opposite reason I guess (although that sounds boastful, believe me its not. Men will hit on anything young). My disgust is my armor, my shield. Until recently I was ashamed of it. Now I am proud of it. Because I really do think its a dirty and animalistic thing. You are correct to feel disgust. (I also think it would be possible for you to find non-sexual female companions if you wanted, provided you have a decent personality of course).

Even so, you present your case story in a negative light. I think you should be proud of what you have achieved, inside. Because it represents a transcendence of something illogical that controls us. Just my opinion. And I'm sorry about your accident, too. Best wishes.

Originally posted by Leftist
I would. I consider sexuality to be perhaps the biggest time-and-energy waster on planet earth. Imagine how much people could accomplish if their energy was not wasted on such stupid pursuits.

Sexuality is the cause of endless conflicts, sorrow, depression, broken hearts, anger, confusion, and so on. It would be best if humanity eventually learned to remove sexual appetite from the species, through genetic engineering, say, or through pills or other medical means. People would still have children, but they would do so as the result of rational planning, not blind lust.

Does anyone else feel the way I do?

edit on 3/27/2012 by Leftist because: (no reason given)

The negative effects of an aggressive sex drive spans far more than just personal bubbles. It affects the way we form foreign policy, the way we value others, the drive for money, and the obvious phallic symbolism you see in just about every historical reference.

If the drive to do things weren't powered by the psychology of sex, we would do things out of a lack of fear and hurt. We would have love and community as motives. The filter through which we live is heavily mottled by sex.

Even with those negatives, I think there would be a better solution than just killing your sex drive. I think this is one of those rare cases where I would prefer treating the symptoms over the cause.

ahhhhhhhh whatever virgin........

There are pills that in away curb sexual desire. Antidepressants have been know to do that as well as other medications. Birth control pills did that for me so I eventually just got my tubes tied. No point in being on the pill if while you are on them you have no interest in the reason you need them.

To the OP:

You dismissed me very easily when I mentioned God earlier. It's not something that bothers all that much: it would be impossible to live as a Christian in this increasingly-secular world if I was so thin-skinned. But thinking about it a bit, looking at your posts: I think it can be said that you, too, are "religious" in a within-quotation-marks sense. After all, a "Leftist" is an "-ist" that accepts a kind of system out of whole cloth, makes it part of her self-identity, and uses it to answer questions about life, death, society, morality, even metaphysics. The argument of whether your politics is the same as a religion is not the topic of this this thread, I realize. But I think your personality might not be so different from mine afterall, is what I am trying to say I guess. I see something of my personality in you!

Look, I understand where you are coming from, really I do! I actually feel frustration about the same thing a lot! Because I don't date much, and every time I have, it has been a disaster. I don't have much experience with guys, believe it or not. (I should have chosen a different name when I signed up because "partygirl" is meant to be ironic - I am not a party person! ).And the experiences I have had haven't really been all that positive. I just got out of a really nasty relationship that opened up my eyes about a lot of things and made me think about my things in a new way. Galadofwarthethird mentioned this in another thread and he's correct!

I started when I was a younger to feel like men are these kind of invasive creatures, always peering into you with ulterior motives. Maybe all women feel this when young, or most anwyay, but for some it is more acute and maybe I'm one of those and maybe you are too. I'm kind of disgusted at the whole thing right now, same as you. But look, what I'm trying to say is, these feelings are natural (both the attraction and the disgust), and if you try to block it all out, it will just come back twice as strong. You have to make an accomodation with it somehow. If you don't want to date and don't want guys in your life, that's fine, but you have to be honest about your feelings and your urges no matter what because you can't just "turn it off" no matter how bad you want to. You have to make room for it somehow in your life or it will destroy you. I sense a lot of pride and swagger in your tone and that's all bluff and bluster - I'm sorry to say it, but I think you are trying to fool yourself.

You need to make room for your feelings somehow in your life: both the disgust and the attraction. You can't have one, you must have both. And when you really accept that, THEN you are able to take control of yourself : to play down the feelings you dislike , and to emphasize the parts of yourself you want to emphasize. But before you can do this you have to be honest about yourself and what is inside you! It's the hand we've all been dealt in life. A skillful cardplayer is not limited to the first hand she draws in a game of skill-combined-with-chance - but she needs to acknowledge the cards she really holds first, not pretend that every card is an ace! Do you know what I mean?

Maybe this comes across as pushy, but I have strong feelings about this because I just spent so much time struggling with this myself! Its just my opinion, no offence please!!! Maybe I'm off base but my intuition is strong here. Peace.

Luckily I have a beautiful outlet for that, so I don't spend much time raping and pillaging. Sucked when I didn't have it, but hey, sometimes it's worth the b.s. and time.

Eventually, i'd probably reconsider. so I can see both sides.

reply to post by Partygirl


Thank you for that. And for taking the time to write it. I'm sorry if I was rude to you earlier. You are a perceptive person and I appreciate your insight.

Not that I agree with everything you said, but you are right about some of it at least. I'll think about what you said some more. I thank you again.

I guess I'm really not all that comfortable with myself, in the way you said. I can admit that. But that doesn't mean I have to change who I am, or what I want.

Despite our (deep) differences maybe we can see eye-to-eye in some way. And that's always nice. Peace back to you as well.