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300,000 oppose gay marriage in biggest petition since election

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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by NoLoveInFear46and2
God damn it's funny how heterosexuals are quick to say: their different so let's keep them apart of the rest of us!
I don't wanna be bending over tying my shoe laces when bam!! Up the butt!! He came from behind!! I'm being man handled !!

Rest your head, you will not get raped by homosexuals walk ing down the street. Basically, and no one can really argue with this, it's all about control. To control another group and population love the taste of partaking in the control ( especially when biggots see a chance at whining on gays).

I do not care for your bigotry, you bunch of ignorant morons! Civilisations are going down all around the world, like such, because we divide ourselves. And now I've given up on humanity, we are a disgrace to this planet and should be completly wiped off.

Just wanna say, I hate you all, everybody who's taking sides with these sorts of petitions, bills, laws ( you know all those dear things that absolutely dooes not affect our freedom )

Go jump off a bridge or someting...
No Peace and no Love


I love this post so much.
Perfect.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by MisticRebel
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Those who hang on the every word the so called "right wing" are foolish, and are brainwashed, they follow blindly a group who cares NOTHING for them except to take their money for their own, in other words they are merely $ signs nothing more. This "group" as a whole is ignorant, WRONG, bigoted, homophobic, racist & sexist ( seeing as how rushy is their "mouthpiece" and calling women by very, very bad, indecent, chauvinistic, disgusting, reprehensible, disgraceful, WRONG, derogatory titles). GLBT are DECENT people, they DESERVE the same rights (that some of you take for granted). They are NOT second class citizens (examples, ellen Degeneres, Adam Lambert, rosie O'donell). I think its high time some of of you get off your bigoted high horse, come back down to reality & stop being ignorant & FOOLISH.


What the heck are you talking about?

"Hang on every word of the so called 'right wing'?"

Words have specific meaning for specific reason. It's so the language works.

Some line breaks or paragraphs would be great too, it's kinda hard to read.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by imjustcurious242
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Look I m from India, here I have seen how stupid decisions societies take in the name of religion and conservatism. Just because canadians did something stupid doesn't mean rest have to follow that. Just because u can;t figure out how to write a document doesn't mean u can take someones basic human right.Anyways point taken.
Yeah yeah...
There is a new breed of ignorant western copy cats in my country.
Marriage isn't a right, it is a dharma (duty) you sheep.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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Shows there are 300,000 paranoid weirdos that continually stop change for the better.

If they had their way, we'd still be in the dark days were there were discriminatory laws against homosexuality, women, abortion and divorce.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Most gays I know would be perfectly happy if civil union licenses were handed out to everyone, instead of marriage licenses for some and civil union licenses for others.


There are a lot of lesbians (not noticed any male couples really - odd) here in my small town of 3k - they seem to be quite rational and respectful as do the very bible thumping locals. No real tension here.

However, when I lived in CA the gay community was a lot more militant and I think they rather wanted to force others to accept them and rub their differences in people's faces.

I think that's the issue - be who you are just don't expect everyone to embrace it. Certainly, people will not embrace that which is forced upon them - it’s counter to our nature. We resist force.


Originally posted by kaylaluv

However, they are going to refer to themselves as married, just like heterosexuals will.


If a church is willing to marry two people of the same sex (which many are) fine by me.

Two people can refer to themselves as whatever they want - the bottom line is the legal definitions are at odds and in the eyes of the law words very much matter.

The problem is that in society marriage does entitle one to certain privileges - need to take those away IMO then there will be no reason to scuffle over them.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by graphuto
reply to post by Ryanssuperman
 


Look, words mean things.

Do I believe that to survive and evolve as a species we should actively uphold and shine good light on practices that could potentially lead to the lack of proliferation of our species?

Hmm...

Not really a chance I'd be willing to take, as a collective conciousness. X amount of people need to be born in X amount of time or the culture will die out.
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edit on 25-3-2012 by graphuto because: (no reason given)


lol. Excuse me for laughing, but are you saying that you think if gays are allowed to be legally married, that will stop procreation on earth? If so, thats ridiculous. The entire world isnt going to turn gay if gays can use the word "Married".



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:04 PM
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What I say is this, "right wingers" are going to LOSE HUGE, GLBT are NOT going away, matter of fact, more states are getting rid of laws against gay & lesbian marriages. The UK are going to end up looking like a foolish child, when all is said and done. GLBT deserve to be able to get married legally, just like everyone else does, and have the same rights that go with legal marriage. GLBT are NOT second class citizens. It is pure ignorance to even think of others that way.



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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw

Originally posted by NoLoveInFear46and2
God damn it's funny how heterosexuals are quick to say: their different so let's keep them apart of the rest of us!
I don't wanna be bending over tying my shoe laces when bam!! Up the butt!! He came from behind!! I'm being man handled !!

Rest your head, you will not get raped by homosexuals walk ing down the street. Basically, and no one can really argue with this, it's all about control. To control another group and population love the taste of partaking in the control ( especially when biggots see a chance at whining on gays).

I do not care for your bigotry, you bunch of ignorant morons! Civilisations are going down all around the world, like such, because we divide ourselves. And now I've given up on humanity, we are a disgrace to this planet and should be completly wiped off.

Just wanna say, I hate you all, everybody who's taking sides with these sorts of petitions, bills, laws ( you know all those dear things that absolutely dooes not affect our freedom )

Go jump off a bridge or someting...
No Peace and no Love


I love this post so much.
Perfect.




what a load of Bollox you spit out

'Real Men Get Raped' Campaign Comes To London Tube Stations

Pink News notes that while over 8,500 sexual crimes against men may have taken place in London alone last year, the British government estimates that only 11 percent of men who were attacked reported the crime due to embarrassment and shame.

www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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Gay marriage is about two people committing to each other in love. How is that not a human right? Love I mean... to decide to do something like marry someone, you have to decide to put up with them for a very long time. So why deprive gays of that, almost like they are not strong enough to put up with all the things that heterosexuals deal with.
In Europe and in the US, religion is kicked out of every aspect of government, yet, gayness is brought in at government’s conveniences as irreligious, or unnatural. What is unnatural about love? Love between men and women is sometimes so suspect, their ability to raise children is never questioned, yet I have yet to read a case of gays abusing their children. Not that it can’t happen; but abusers are at the moment, heterosexuals and priests. And priests because they are prohibited from sex and they over fantasize and over compensate when they do get a chance, they prey instead of court (so sad). The Catholic Church may as well run the world, because while everyone slams all their laws, they abide by them fervently.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by LaborofLove
reply to post by ollncasino
 


Gay marriage is about two people committing to each other in love. How is that not a human right? Love I mean... to decide to do something like marry someone, you have to decide to put up with them for a very long time. So why deprive gays of that, almost like they are not strong enough to put up with all the things that heterosexuals deal with.
In Europe and in the US, religion is kicked out of every aspect of government, yet, gayness is brought in at government’s conveniences as irreligious, or unnatural. What is unnatural about love? Love between men and women is sometimes so suspect, their ability to raise children is never questioned, yet I have yet to read a case of gays abusing their children. Not that it can’t happen; but abusers are at the moment, heterosexuals and priests. And priests because they are prohibited from sex and they over fantasize and over compensate when they do get a chance, they prey instead of court (so sad). The Catholic Church may as well run the world, because while everyone slams all their laws, they abide by them fervently.



hi
have you read all the posts?
i agree with some of what you say..love is love
but the op was not bashing gays..far from it
im not explaining anymore
good night



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
Shows there are 300,000 paranoid weirdos that continually stop change for the better.

If they had their way, we'd still be in the dark days were there were discriminatory laws against homosexuality, women, abortion and divorce.
Homos are equal before the law.
There is a fight just over a word and its meaning.
I think you people stop paranoid remarks about inequality and all.
Pure emotional drama.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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The so called "church" isn't welcome to decide anything in MY life or the lives of MY family or MY friends. The so called "church" has plenty of its own business er scandals & criminal charges to worry about. It should be worried only with its internal troubles and NOT anyone elses. I do NOT condone what the so called "church"has done to innocent children the sexual abuse (ring a bell with any of you or how about the forced castration of innocent children as well). The "church" doesn't get a say in this subject now or ever. This so called "petition" is TRASH first & foremost. It only shows how worried they are about holding onto the so called "power" it thought it deserved to have ( which was never earned or rightfully belonged ). It lost any respect or decency it had or could of had centuries ago. The "church" doesn't deserve to have a say in womens health issues either for that fact.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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you just made his point, well, his counter-point.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ryanssuperman

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ryanssuperman
I think you just shot yourself in the foot. Your statement of "not being allowed to call it a marriage" would be the main issue here. Why should there be openly accepted discrimination? Why shouldn't gays be able to call it marriage?


Why isn't a dog called a cat?



... you just proved my point. Its just a word, why do you care what someone calls their relationship? Why do you care if a canine is called a dog or a cat?
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doh!
really?
dude, it's called definitions.
It's used to communicate accurately and avoid confusion.
Really? This is what it's come to? The definition of what
"is" is?
I suggest EVERYONE run out and buy "The Abolition of Man" b y C.S. Lewis to understand what happens to society as we travel down this road of redefining words to obscure our past.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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Two things have stood out in your long winded diatribe. No, make that three
1: you don't seem to understand what a democracy is
2: your math skills are seriously suspect (you have a majority in opinions. Then in the same post claim that 40% support the view)
3: You choose to call Roman Catholicism as "the church" as an all encompasing umbrella term to suit your rants. It is not the Biblical church. It only seems to serve as a backdrop for your baseless points.

Other than that you really seem to have a grasp of using alot of words together



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by graphuto
Spent about twenty minutes reading through this whole thread here and this is my subjective assessment:

No one is understanding what OP is trying to say. He clearly doesn't have a problem with gay people, or what they do.

He is talking strictly terminology.



Thanks.

I work with two gays. I get on great with them. I have been friends with people who are gay in the past.

However, I do not agree with a gay civil union being called a marriage as it is another step in the process of undermining the traditional family.

Why do I care about the traditional family?

Because it is the best type of family for children to be brought up in.

How traditional families help children succeed



Dr. William Jeynes, a Professor at California State University... ...summarizes the relationship between parenting and academic and behavioral outcomes for children.

This research synthesis... ...involves statistically synthesizing all the research that has been done on a given topic.

First, the farther one departs from a two biological parent family structure, the greater a negative impact this has on the children’s academic outcomes and what are commonly referred to as at-risk behaviors, including consuming various types of illegal drugs and unhealthy amounts of alcohol and becoming involved in a single parent teenage pregnancy.

Second, at-risk behaviors are more strongly associated with low educational outcomes than people assume.

Third, there are factors that mitigate the effects of non-traditional family structures. They include parental involvement, the love of other major adults in the youth’s life, and the child being a person of faith.

Dr. Jeynes is a graduate of Harvard University and the University of Chicago.

liturgical.wordpress.com...


Note this research isn't an isolated study. It is a statistical summary of many studies on the issue.

Children from a traditional family are less likely to do drugs, drink too much or become a single mother.

Children from a traditional family do better academically.

In other words, children from traditional families do better in life. That is better for them and better for society.

That isn't to say that a single mother or two gay dads can't do a great job. It is just they do a less good job on average across society as a whole.

Tradtional families, on average give kids the best chance in life.




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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
I suspect that the vast majority of people really couldn't give a toss if gays have the right to marry or not.
They may resent what they perceive homosexuality being promoted in MSM but most people think that what consenting adults do in private is their own business and people shouldn't be discriminated against.

It's also one of them subjects where if people are opposed to it they are quite passionate about it and will go out of their way to express their opinion whereas the majority really just don't care and think there are far more important things to concern themselves with.

That's probably little consolation to most gay people.


This is very true. The thing is that when something in society moves or changes, or when a certain attitude is changing, the REMAINING people with the old attitude become louder and more passionate than ever. It always happens this way.

So really, people like the Westboro Baptist Church can be viewed as the final gasps of life being desperately taken by such people.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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I think you missed his point.
His point being, you're no more likely to get raped by a gay man,
than a woman is to get raped by a straight man.



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