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300,000 oppose gay marriage in biggest petition since election

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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by puzzlesphere
... but the meaning of "marriage" has changed.

I will call any officially unioned couple married regardless of their sex (or species for that matter) because that's the socially understandable term for it.


Are you advocating inter-species marriage?

Now that is just wrong.




posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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hya
you took the words out of my mouth
i started to post on hi/her post
then gave up
that is a nut job in the making



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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I find the topic of gay marriage to be sort of hilarious. Note: Im gay

One of the main arguments is,
Marriage is between a man and a woman, gay marriage would ruin its' sanctity.

www.chinadaily.com.cn...
www.hollywoodreporter.com...
www.thefrisky.com...


Im sorry for ruining marriage for you, you know, because vows mean a whole lot to people now.

The point is, why should it matter if they are male or female? Homosexuality has been related to biological attraction over and over again. Not to mention that the church has NO SAY in marriage any more.

Even though I am catholic, Why should non catholics have to follow catholic/christian laws in a government based on free religon?




posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by puzzlesphere
... but the meaning of "marriage" has changed.

I will call any officially unioned couple married regardless of their sex (or species for that matter) because that's the socially understandable term for it.


Are you advocating inter-species marriage?

Now that is just wrong.


Don't twist his words
What he is talking about is those cute little dog marriages.
1.bp.blogspot.com...

Although I do limit marriage to humans



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by MisticRebel
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Again, I'm calling you gay bashers OUT, I'm here standing against YOU , and there are more standing AGAINST YOU. You think its ok to call gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender second class people, you think you got the right to hate them, you think you have the right to tell them how they have to live, then you really are ignorant, LOST, NOT holy, COWARDLY, NO honor, NO guts. Some of you have forgotten what democracy means, you'vealso strayed far from the right path. NO you aren't on the right path , your mind is clouded those of you backing the NAZI right wing "party" which its not a party, its the epidomy of the SS & the KKK put together, you really want to support another genocidal group?. Cause those of you who stand with the right wing, that is where YOU are headed. It will come to drawing lines in the sand, and I know where I stand & it sure isn't with ignorant, closed minded, hypocritical nazi wannabes. you sure you want to FALL with the right wing?




Oh PLEASE, TELL ME WHAT DEMOCRACY MEANS.
I wait in anticipation of what a hate monguer defines democracy as to be. And then go back and debate with annee.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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I'll say it again...

... the meaning of the word has already changed. People against the legal use of marriage for gays are fighting against the natural progression of a social meme, and aiming their unhappiness at minority group...

... which is discrimination.

Get with the times... I understand that marriage, as it is understood these days encompasses more than "a man and a woman in the eyes of god"... why can't everyone else see this simple semantic issue that is harboring a discriminatory attitude in a particular group of people towards another group of people.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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Offtopic:
Annees here? I LOVE ANNEE!!

On topic: Democracy = How much money different groups can throw around - The people play a minor role in everything
edit on 25-3-2012 by darkredfish because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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If it floats your boat.. then go for it I say.

People have married all types of things, other species, inanimate objects, etc... the point is that we understand what a marriage is (and it's understood to be more these days than a "man and woman"), so denying a minority the use of a socially accepted meme is discrimination... it's that simple.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by manna2
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Animals throughout nature are found eating feces.
That's natural for the animal kingdom.


that's my point... it is very difficult to define what normal and natural are, as they are highly relative terms. the post i replied to attempted to state these definitions in saying that homosexuality is NOT natural.

well, as you have illustrated in your reply to myself, 'natural' is quite relative.

so what then is our barometer of what is Natural or what is Normal? that truly is the question. and it has no easy answer.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by MisticRebel
aardvark888 & ollncasino, & the other COWARDLY , IGNORANT little "right wingers" your party is a HUGE JOKE, you got little rushy saying he is the mouthpiece for your ignorant little group, I would seperate yourselves from that obviously lieing mouthy child, he isn't clean he is still a DRUG ADDICT, I see it in his skin , I know what to look for , cause I know what the signs are. & I'm NOT laughing little child ollncasino, I'm right here if you got something to say kid. I'm not going to back down either. Those support this ignorance and mindset against letting GLBT get married, there are far more standing AGAINST YOU & I'm one of them, & NO I won't support you on here or any blog site online I'll definately tell you how it is & how it is going to be, I will NOT pull any punches, you want to take this to the next level? you obviously have forgooten what RESPECT, HONOR mean and using religion to justify your ignorance & gay bashing hate is a COP OUT. Do I need to remind you the "vatican" sided with and supported hitler and his genocidal SS and the fallout that came with it? some of YOU lost family cause of that or are you so blind you've forgotten that HUGE detail. your so called "right wing party" is starting to resemble that DEAD, BURIED, & GONE nazi SS. You sure you want to follow that type of a group, what will your kids say when they start to see what you are into & your friends & family. I think you should reexamine your thoughts & priorities. By the way I'm standing against everyone of you on here who rally against gay marriage being legal, PS.. New Hampshire has done the right thing by making gay marriage legal just thought I'd add that INTO this thread, just to show you I'm not going to play nice.


Could you maybe consider using paragraphs?

As interesting as your rants are, they are difficult to read.

Thanks awfully.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Are you saying that the breakdown of society and the family unit over the past few decades happened by accident? Are you saying the feminism has made woman happier? No I'm not for Sharia law. Can you answer just one of my points, or is sarcasm all you have ?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Yes - use the [Return] key once in a while - or better yet, take a pill and go lie down.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Although I do limit marriage to humans


there are lots of species that mate for life.

www.mnn.com...

are they any less 'married' than a human couple?

or is it simply the Ritual of Marriage which initiates & symbolizes the binding for life that makes one married?


obviously, i'm playing word games and semantics here, as it is silly to apply human concepts as a way of understanding the animal world.


point being is... well, i'm not sure. these are some heady concepts of social norms and taboos. good ol' humans, always complicating the issues.



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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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why do people have to make life so hard for eachother ? Who cares if two people of the same sex get married, their SOULS ARE GENDERLESS! ... whatever your stupid bible tells you about homosexuality and all that non-sense.. throw it out! Its garbage. How is it hurting any one straight person when two people of the same sex (who have nothing to do with yourself) get married ? sooo pathetic.. humans waste their energy on the WRONG things! Saddens me how many people support this anti-homo stuff.. just two souls in love, their vessel-bodies dont mean sh!t

~ Love is an art



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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by MisticRebel
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ardyvarky, YOU are an IGNORANT, CLOSED MINDED, HOMOPHOBE, with shades of racism thrown in, but hey what else should I expect from an ignorant CHILD. Keep going I'll just use your every word against you. Those with DECENCY, HONOR, RESPECT, they stand against everyone of you anti gay scared, little, ignorant, bigoted, children.


misticrebel: whilst, in spirit i am "on your side" of the argument concerning the topic of homosexual marriage rights, and i surely respect your obvious passion & conviction, you do your perspective more harm than good by, in the same breath calling for Honor and Respect, you toss around words like "ignorant, bigoted children".

you will do a service to yourself and your point of view if you can tone it down, or at least channel your argument into discussion points and not rage-bombs. otherwise, the conversation will become a reaction to your rage, and ignore whatever valid points you are trying to make.

otherwise, you are resorting to the same tactics that good ol' Rush L. uses, and such tactics leave very little wiggle room for a genuine, honest debate.

but hey.... you've got spunk!

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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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You are derailing the thread with personal attacks... this was a very civil thread with some good debate about the subject until you entered.

Tone it down, and stay on topic.
 

Back to the topic...

Great post LoveisanArt... the fact that one group of people doesn't want to "allow" another to use a socially accepted concept is discrimination and unnecessary.

It's not like the gay community is trying to force you to change the term "marriage" to "egg-flanging" or something different. All they want is to legally be able to use a common term to describe themselves.

Quite simple really, and no skin off anyone's nose.

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