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300,000 oppose gay marriage in biggest petition since election

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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
Shows there are 300,000 paranoid weirdos that continually stop change for the better.


Undermining the tradtional family is not change for the better.




posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Bhadhidar
A Buddhist has different beliefs than a Christian.

A Frenchman is a Frenchman because he was born in France, not Germany, or he would be a German.


You have proved my point. A frenchman is different from a German.

That is why the have different names.

A gay civil union is different from a hetrosexual marriage.

That is why they have different names.





Yeah, the new names could be "heterosexual marriage" and "gay marriage." You got your two names now!



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Why couldnt 300,000 protest here in America .... and we have one the largest Christian populations.


2nd.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Don't care. Majority has no right to "vote" over a minority. Equality is a Human Right you don't vote on.

Originally posted by Annee

Actualy, equality is not a human right. Take a look around.
Are all humans equal? No.
Are some humans better than others or more deserving than others? No.
Equality is not a human right, no matter how much that paper tiger the UN says, or any other intergovernmental body/panel/quango/committee.

Nice idea, but not a popular one to people in power. You know, the people in power who are MORE equal than you?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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It's all bigotry, and while the government sees fit to give tax breaks to institutions that call homosexuality a sin, nothing will change. The so called church still dictates...



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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I don't think he's misunderstood, I think he misunderstands - you have to dig deep to find any negativity on adoption sites or on parenting sites about gay parenting. Gay parents are not the issue - in fact, parenting is something too often thought of as a right, and we allow 15 year olds to become parents without any discord. Most gay couples are mature when they decide to take on the role of parenting, I think it has to do with their enormous overcompensation and also long processes before becoming parents. Gay parents making that choice have most times achieved a level of responsibility that many hetro couples haven't even pondered!!!

Saying "I am friends with black people" sounds prejudice right? What does "I am friends with gay people" sound like?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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could you just answer to that question... what is a gay ? an object ? something ? is it human ?

what is the problem with those people who think that they are above others people and they can think they can choose who or who could not live there life , gay people are not fighting for the marriage but it's an excuse to point the fact that they are a kind of sub human for some people...and this is just unfair... now why don't we put all the gay on a camp and maybe to kill them all no ? what do you think about it ?

i'm tired of you people so selfish, so turned to your own desires, there is no fairness, no freedom, hell is really the other ... it makes me sick



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by LaborofLove
reply to post by ollncasino
 


I don't think he's misunderstood, I think he misunderstands - you have to dig deep to find any negativity on adoption sites or on parenting sites about gay parenting. Gay parents are not the issue - in fact, parenting is something too often thought of as a right, and we allow 15 year olds to become parents without any discord. Most gay couples are mature when they decide to take on the role of parenting, I think it has to do with their enormous overcompensation and also long processes before becoming parents. Gay parents making that choice have most times achieved a level of responsibility that many hetro couples haven't even pondered!!!

Saying "I am friends with black people" sounds prejudice right? What does "I am friends with gay people" sound like?


im friends with blacks, puerto ricans, whites, gays, mexicans, laotians, ect ect.

that sounds like social evolution to me.

btw you cant undermine marriage by allowing gays to be called married. straight couples have been doing a well enough job of making it a joke.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by manna2
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you just made his point, well, his counter-point.



No, I made my own point. A girl who is a red. and a girl who is a brunette are still both girls. A heterosexual couple and a homosexual couple can still both be a married couple.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by graphuto
Spent about twenty minutes reading through this whole thread here and this is my subjective assessment:

No one is understanding what OP is trying to say. He clearly doesn't have a problem with gay people, or what they do.

He is talking strictly terminology.



I understand exactly what OP is saying. He wants gay unions to be excluded from, or segregated from the term marriage. This is discrimination, whether he realizes it or not.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Any reports on how many people would sign a petition supporting it?

I bet it would be in the millions !



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by MacDonagh
Shows there are 300,000 paranoid weirdos that continually stop change for the better.


Undermining the tradtional family is not change for the better.



So your argument is now that gays are encroaching on your own territory and you feel like your own marriage or social values will be diminished?

Please correct me if I got it wrong.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by LaborofLove
Most gay couples are mature when they decide to take on the role of parenting, I think it has to do with their enormous overcompensation and also long processes before becoming parents.

Gay parents making that choice have most times achieved a level of responsibility that many hetro couples haven't even pondered!!!


I have cited a study (of studies) that show that a hetrosexual, tradtional family, produces on average more successful children.

Besides your pro-gay bluster, can you cite any academic studies that show that gay parents are better, on average, for children than a hetrosexual couple?

A real academic study?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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You can try to legislate it all you want, but if heterosexual marriage is a right then gay marriage is a right as well. Its the right of 2 consenting adults. Shouldn't it be a personal issue not a government issue? I just don't understand why people care what 2 adults do in the privacy of their own homes or in their own lives. As long as they're not infringing on your rights or hurting you, where's the problem? Maybe these people protesting need to stop pushing their morals and sensibilities on other people. Even if you abhor gay marriage, you should respect the rights of others.

"You should fight for the rights of those you disagree with most" ~ Penn Juliet



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Can anyone imagine a gay president standing in front of our country with his manly man? I can't ever imagine that day. Nor would I ever want to..



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Garfee
So your argument is now that gays are encroaching on your own territory and you feel like your own marriage or social values will be diminished?

Please correct me if I got it wrong.


My argument is that tradtional families, on average, produce more successful children (see the study of studies I cited earlier that proves that point)

More successful children is better for society and just as importantly, it is better for the children.

But let's not let the interests of the children and society get in the way of gay rights?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
I have cited a study (of studies) that show that a hetrosexual, tradtional family, produces on average more successful children.


I don't know what studies you are citing. But the most current say there is no difference - - even giving kids of same gender parents a slight edge by understanding diversity.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Well I am guessing you are gay along with 12 more that gave you stars...your outed now...: ) hahaha

Please keep converting straight men gave and or pushing your message, it is leaving many more woman available since there is less competition.

Dude seriously can two men or 2 woman create life...? Answer this please, if you say yes your full of s#$%, if you say no than being gay is NOT NATURAL...

You cannot put a 220 connector into into a 110 outlet, its not natural because it does not produce life/energy...

Again I am all for the MALE gay movement...female gay movement BAD...

Also Anyone here ever notice at a gym the gay guys are only there to hit on other gay guys, not really to work out...ahh thank Allah for earphones and the ability to stare at the floor when there is a lack of woman.

Sniper...



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
I don't know what studies you are citing. But the most current say there is no difference - - even giving kids of same gender parents a slight edge by understanding diversity.


Where are these studies you speak of?

You have already admitted on another thread that you like to cite a gay website that has no academic sources.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by LaborofLove
Most gay couples are mature when they decide to take on the role of parenting, I think it has to do with their enormous overcompensation and also long processes before becoming parents.

Gay parents making that choice have most times achieved a level of responsibility that many hetro couples haven't even pondered!!!


I have cited a study (of studies) that show that a hetrosexual, tradtional family, produces on average more successful children.

Besides your pro-gay bluster, can you cite any academic studies that show that gay parents are better, on average, for children than a hetrosexual couple?

A real academic study?



I have several gay aunts and uncles who have managed to raise a total of 7 kids - all of whom are leading successful lives. 2 Doctors, 1 nurse, 2 I.T. engineers, 1 lawyer, and 1 stay at home dad who does a damn fine job raising his children. I don't need studies to know the sexual preferences of parents is moot when it comes to raising children. Its all about a productive, nurturing environment. Love is blind my friend, good parenting isn't derived from being straight.




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